Joe Horn

jon1856 · #1 07-06-2008, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasWSP

I knew with certainty that was the portion of my statement that you would highlight and comment on. If memory serves me, Horn operated within his limits. Is that not correct? He said he felt threatened, stated why he shot them, and had an undercover cop attest to the situation that played out. End of story.

I'm not feeling that the comparison between a cop and Horn works. I don't think a cop has to feel threatened to shoot someone. If a cop tells you to do something, especially after you just committed a fairly serious crime, and you disobey and run.......you are running a great risk of getting shot.

...and Kevin, I am going to assume that cops follow the right procedures more times than not.

Brother,
No one here, TTBOMK, was on the GJ.
I have heard the 911 tapes over and over and over.
And the first thought I had from the very first one is still in my mind:
He had it in his head that he was going to shoot & kill someone as he place the call.
He was safe inside his own house.
What did he do? He got a shot-gun, loaded it, went out side, told the two they were dead and then fired into their backs.
Just MPOV and VHO.

DSTCHAOS · #2 07-06-2008, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

Just MPOV and VHO.

Not just yours.

Texas law has "spoken" but this discussion doesn't end there.

PhiGam · #3 07-06-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Not just yours.

Texas law has "spoken" but this discussion doesn't end there.

Thankfully Texas law agrees with my POV. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Either you think that Joe made the right decision to go outside and confront the thieves or you think that Joe Horn should have hidden in his house and let the crooks get away. I wouldn't have done what Joe Horn did but I admire him for having the courage to do it.

DSTCHAOS · #4 07-06-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

This discussion isn't about agreeing. It is about discussing.

PhiGam · #5 07-07-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

This discussion isn't about agreeing. It is about discussing.

Not much to discuss, some people think that he was morally correct in confronting the burglars and some people do not.

DaemonSeid · #6 07-07-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam

Not much to discuss, some people think that he was morally correct in confronting the burglars and some people do not.

slight correction for clarity...

some thought his solution during the confrontation (shooting) was correct.....blah blah...not trying to split hairs but u see what i mean....

jon1856 · #7 07-07-2008, 08:11 PM

Well, this has yet to be brought up here; seems as if this case/county is heading in the same direction (without some of the "noise") as another recent shooting case has gone:
HARRIS COUNTY
Lawmaker calls for inquiry into Harris County legal system

Sheila Jackson Lee wants Congress to look into string of local scandals

"ASSOCIATED PRESS
Monday, July 07, 2008

HOUSTON — U.S. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee called Sunday for a congressional inquiry into what she believes is a state of crisis within the Harris County legal system.
The Houston Democrat primarily cited a recent grand jury decision not to indict suburban homeowner Joe Horn, the retired grandfather who shot to death two men he suspected of burglarizing a neighbor's home.
"There needs to be a question about how the case was presented," Jackson Lee said. "Was there no basis for this individual to be tried by a jury of his peers?"
She said her effort also was spurred by a string of other controversial cases and scandals involving Harris County criminal justice agencies, including the sheriff's office, where top commanders were disciplined for sending racially insensitive e-mails.
"It is time for all officials to be held accountable and true justice and democracy to be restored," she said. "
http://www.statesman.com/news/conten...707harris.html
http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_9804679
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...s/5874193.html
http://www.abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/Wir...5320173&page=1

DSTCHAOS · #8 07-07-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam

Not much to discuss....

Then you don't have to.

TexasWSP · #9 07-06-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

Brother,
No one here, TTBOMK, was on the GJ.
I have heard the 911 tapes over and over and over.
And the first thought I had from the very first one is still in my mind:
He had it in his head that he was going to shoot & kill someone as he place the call.
He was safe inside his own house.
What did he do? He got a shot-gun, loaded it, went out side, told the two they were dead and then fired into their backs.
Just MPOV and VHO.

1. I don't know what all of these abbreviations mean.

2. The report and eyewitness account by the police officer, if I read it correctly, states that the illegal Colombian criminals ran at him and then veered off as he shot them. Again, if two burglars run at me after robbing the house next door.....they are getting shot.

3. Who cares if he was "safe inside his house"? He protected his neighbor's home and took two pieces of trash off my Texas streets. Congratulations for not doing nothing.