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07-03-2008, 06:40 PM
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Well I talked to a fraternity guy at KU who said his house had a quota. The way he described it, it sounded like the quota only applied to that specific house and the other houses had different quotas. So maybe you're kinda right.
It's not like sororities necessarily love quota either... I'd rather take a smaller group than bid a bunch of people who don't fit in for whatever reason and will likely drop anyway.
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07-03-2008, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sarahsmilehawk
Well I talked to a fraternity guy at KU who said his house had a quota. The way he described it, it sounded like the quota only applied to that specific house and the other houses had different quotas. So maybe you're kinda right.
It's not like sororities necessarily love quota either... I'd rather take a smaller group than bid a bunch of people who don't fit in for whatever reason and will likely drop anyway.
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I should thought before I spoke, I totally forgot about one major key component of quotas. The fraternity quota are in essence, rush goals, they aren't binding at all, but bigger fraternities, such as those at SEC institutions have no problems with this, they are solid chapters and HQ won't push them very hard. Where quotas begin to come into play in the fraternal division, is when you have under-performing chapters at universities not really produce a very good Greek Life, the pressure mounts immensely for these group to get the unrealistic numbers their nationals has placed on them.
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07-06-2008, 05:02 PM
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Where quotas begin to come into play in the fraternal division, is when you have under-performing chapters at universities not really produce a very good Greek Life, the pressure mounts immensely for these group to get the unrealistic numbers their nationals has placed on them.
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I didn't think dudes were dumb enough to do this. Or is it just certain national fraternities?
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07-06-2008, 05:22 PM
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I didn't think dudes were dumb enough to do this. Or is it just certain national fraternities?
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i would imagine most have a similar system, its just not as pronounced to outsiders, but i cannot be sure.
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07-06-2008, 10:31 PM
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I didn't think dudes were dumb enough to do this. Or is it just certain national fraternities?
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I know of one, maybe two, national fraternities that will set 'goals' for their chapters. They look at how many pledges the chapter has had over the last couple of years, the average pledge class of the groups on the campus, and then set a goal for their chapter.
Alpha Beta Fraternity
Alpha chapter at University of Whatever has had an average of 18 pledges for the past 5 fall rushes. The campus average for IFC rush at Whatever is 27. Your goal this year is 22 pledges.
Beta chapter at Whatever State University has only had an average of 9 pledges the past 5 fall rushes. The campus average for IFC rush is 22. Your goal this year is 14 pledges.
I don't know if there is any punishment for not reaching their goal. The one fraternity that I know set goals had the goal and the number of pledges on their website, but it is not there now.
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07-07-2008, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sarahsmilehawk
Well I talked to a fraternity guy at KU who said his house had a quota. The way he described it, it sounded like the quota only applied to that specific house and the other houses had different quotas. So maybe you're kinda right.
It's not like sororities necessarily love quota either... I'd rather take a smaller group than bid a bunch of people who don't fit in for whatever reason and will likely drop anyway.
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Maybe you said it all, one Fraternity at the KU Campus and not all!
I guess it would depend on which Fraternity you are refering to and how close they are!
If they are a Jewish Fraternity that may be true. But knowing a bit about KU recruitment, over all you are incorrect!
KU has a strong Greek Community with big houses and memberships for most!
But of course in The Major Houses membership counts!
OOPS they have to pay the bills!
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07-07-2008, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Earp
Maybe you said it all, one Fraternity at the KU Campus and not all!
I guess it would depend on which Fraternity you are refering to and how close they are!
If they are a Jewish Fraternity that may be true. But knowing a bit about KU recruitment, over all you are incorrect!
KU has a strong Greek Community with big houses and memberships for most!
But of course in The Major Houses membership counts!
OOPS they have to pay the bills! 
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What the hell tom?
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07-08-2008, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Earp
Maybe you said it all, one Fraternity at the KU Campus and not all!
I guess it would depend on which Fraternity you are refering to and how close they are!
If they are a Jewish Fraternity that may be true. But knowing a bit about KU recruitment, over all you are incorrect!
KU has a strong Greek Community with big houses and memberships for most!
But of course in The Major Houses membership counts!
OOPS they have to pay the bills! 
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Actually, the member I spoke to was from Lambda Chi Alpha.
About Sigma Nu: They have only been off campus for four years, and they did exist in some form or another the whole time. They have moved back into their chapter house, which is very nice (despite being haunted). They already have a greater presence on campus than several other fraternities (Phi Taus and TKEs seem to be MIA around here).
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