Joe Horn

DaemonSeid · #1 07-02-2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TexasWSP

The report states one of the criminals ran at Horn. I'm not seeing a problem here with shooting an illegal Colombian ex-con who just robbed his neighbor's house and was then dumb enough to try to run, especially towards him, when being held at gun point.

Calling this man a murderer is pathetic. These men were not perceived criminals...they were criminals, and he rid our state of two of them. Shouldn't have tried to run. Deal with it.

DS, If memory serves me, there was an officer on the scene who was there long enough to see him holding up the criminals and then shoot them when, from his point of view, one of them ran at Horn. Surely he was there in enough time to perform his duties.

correct...a UC was at the scene...who more than likely was or could be utilized as eyes for the uni already en route that would have been able to track the criminals down...

Getting out of the car could have had the consequences of him getting shot by Horn, who could have mistaken the UC as a getaway driver. Or possibly the UC getting shot or detained by unis who also could have mistaken him for one of the perps and the perps were getting away...

just a thought.

But in any instance, the UC did what he was supposed to do IMO

DSTCHAOS · #2 07-02-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

correct...a UC was at the scene...who more than likely was or could be utilized as eyes for the uni already en route that would have been able to track the criminals down...

Getting out of the car could have had the consequences of him getting shot by Horn, who could have mistaken the UC as a getaway driver. Or possibly the UC getting shot or detained by unis who also could have mistaken him for one of the perps and the perps were getting away...

just a thought.

But in any instance, the UC did what he was supposed to do IMO

Exactly and I agree with your other posts, too.

Horn was a proud gun toting Texan who was looking forward to shooting someone, regardless of anything else. The "regardless of anything else" is what makes this scary because individual citizens don't have the right to take the law into their own hands and PLACE THEMSELVES in danger for the helluvit. He killed people over property--there is no self-defense when you go outside with a gun and claim you felt threatened when one of the dudes came toward you. Horn treated this like he was playing a video game.

There are laws that state what home owners can and can not do to burglars. These may not exist in Texas and that makes Texas a perfect example of some of what anti-gun people are talking about.

(Horn might be crazy, too, so this could support mental health screening for gun owners.)

Kevin · #3 07-02-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

because individual citizens don't have the right to take the law into their own hands and PLACE THEMSELVES in danger for the helluvit.

You're not taking the law into your own hands when you follow the law. Joe Horn followed the law.

RU OX Alum · #4 07-02-2008, 11:59 AM

And just because you don't like a law doesn't make it not binding.

Especially when said law is enacted in a different sovereignty than your own.

DaemonSeid · #5 07-02-2008, 12:03 PM

Logically and legally I agree with Kevin

Morally is where I disagree and I think this is why a lot of people have issue over the ruling and the law and what may happen in future cases

DSTCHAOS · #6 07-02-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Logically and legally I agree with Kevin

Morally is where I disagree and I think this is why a lot of people have issue over the ruling and the law and what may happen in future cases

That law is encouraging vigilantism and that law will not be equally applied.

'nuff said