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Old 06-30-2008, 11:21 PM
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The Sigma Nu chapter at MIT decided to go coed in 1970. They disaffiliated with the national fraternity and adopted their chapter designation, Epsilon Theta, as their name. Sigma Nu has since recolonized; the chapter was rechartered in 1995.

The same thing happened with the MIT chapter of Pi Kappa Alpha in 1975. They went coed, disaffiliated from the national fraternity, and now go by pika.

And the same thing happened with the MIT chapter of Sigma Alpha Mu. They went coed, disaffiliated from the national fraternity in 1973, and now call themselves Fenway House.

Here is what happened to Sigma Nu's chapter at MIT when they decided to go co-ed... http://web.mit.edu/thetans/www/actives.html

Weak, nerdy men and beat chicks. Probably a great GPA - but I'm sure their athletic trophy case is sparce.
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Old 06-30-2008, 11:31 PM
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Here is what happened to Sigma Nu's chapter at MIT when they decided to go co-ed... http://web.mit.edu/thetans/www/actives.html

Weak, nerdy men and beat chicks. Probably a great GPA - but I'm sure their athletic trophy case is sparce.
This must have been your chapter?
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Old 06-30-2008, 11:33 PM
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It's interesting to see the guys bashing MIT and Brown in this thread.

Everyone is different everywhere.

Edited to remove shame from those who do not deserve it.

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Old 07-01-2008, 12:10 AM
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Here is what happened to Sigma Nu's chapter at MIT when they decided to go co-ed... http://web.mit.edu/thetans/www/actives.html

Weak, nerdy men and beat chicks. Probably a great GPA - but I'm sure their athletic trophy case is sparce.
The other day you were saying Greek orgs should be all about GPA and leadership. Now because some group that you arbitrarily decide not to like has a good GPA, you're focusing on athletics? Typical.

The point is you're no better or worse than anyone else for the way your chapter is, and neither are these kids from MIT and Brown. But if you want to get down to it on who is more likely to succeed in life, it's probably the MIT and Brown kids - NOT the guys from your chapter.

The larger point that you're missing here is the other day you got riled up when some southern fraternity guys insulted your chapter for being different from theirs culturally & socially. You responded with a bunch of stuff about GPA, leadership, objective standards, etc. Now you're faulting people you don't even have any interaction with, because they appear to be (from a few pictures you've seen, some of which were clearly in jest in the first place) socially and culturally different than you. What happened to your standards?

You are truly a pathetic individual.

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Old 07-01-2008, 12:37 PM
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Here is what happened to Sigma Nu's chapter at MIT when they decided to go co-ed... http://web.mit.edu/thetans/www/actives.html

Weak, nerdy men and beat chicks. Probably a great GPA - but I'm sure their athletic trophy case is sparce.
Weak, nerdy men as opposed to unattractive jocks who try to be thugs??

http://www.sigmanuniu.com/photo_gall...photo_id=46727

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Old 07-01-2008, 01:58 PM
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Here is what happened to Sigma Nu's chapter at MIT when they decided to go co-ed... http://web.mit.edu/thetans/www/actives.html

Weak, nerdy men and beat chicks. Probably a great GPA - but I'm sure their athletic trophy case is sparce.
They're nerds because they go to MIT, not because their fraternity went co-ed.

Same way your brothers probably aren't so bright because they go to NIU, not because they're Sigma Nu's.
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Old 07-01-2008, 05:32 PM
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Here is what happened to Sigma Nu's chapter at MIT when they decided to go co-ed... http://web.mit.edu/thetans/www/actives.html

Weak, nerdy men and beat chicks. Probably a great GPA - but I'm sure their athletic trophy case is sparce.
Best Rush Schedule I've seen in a longtime: http://web.mit.edu/thetans/www/rush.html With a Dumpling Dinner, it would sure narrow thte playing field

I can't make jokes about the nerdiness of MIT. My father went there. And even though he always had a sliderule in his pocket when I was a kid, he is my hero.
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Old 06-29-2008, 10:11 PM
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""Chi Psi's not in the Big 4 is it?"

No Chi Psi is not.

My pledge brother Gregory Marmalard recently visited UNC and checked thing out. The big 4 houses at UNC are Beta, Deke, Phi Delt and Phi Gam.
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Old 06-29-2008, 10:19 PM
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""Chi Psi's not in the Big 4 is it?"

No Chi Psi is not.

My pledge brother Gregory Marmalard recently visited UNC and checked thing out. The big 4 houses at UNC are Beta, Deke, Phi Delt and Phi Gam.

How is the "big 4" defined? Do the chapters within the big 4 ever change, or is it constant? What's the history behind that?
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Old 06-29-2008, 10:30 PM
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""Chi Psi's not in the Big 4 is it?"

No Chi Psi is not.

My pledge brother Gregory Marmalard recently visited UNC and checked thing out. The big 4 houses at UNC are Beta, Deke, Phi Delt and Phi Gam.
I knew Beta and Phi Gam were up there, but weren't sure of any of the others.
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Old 06-29-2008, 10:51 PM
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Unfortunately, I don't know any history or facts relating to the big 4 fraternities at UNC. However, I do know several alumni from Carolina. They all say Beta, Deke, Phi Delt and Phi Gam make up the big 4. Sorry I can't eloborate.
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Old 06-29-2008, 11:42 PM
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The Big Four is DKE, PhiGam, PhiDelt and Beta.. however it really isn't the "Big Four" anymore; most consider Beta to have slipped a little bit. There is no movement into the Big Four. I won't mention which chapter I am an alumnus of so I won't appear to have a bias.

Having said that, from my understanding the Greek scene at UNC is thriving now more than at any point in the past twenty years. There are other fraternities outside of the Big Four, that I would have rushed today but did not consider ten years ago. I can point to a big turning point in UNC Greek life. After the PhiGam disaster of '96 the University forced all houses to have sprinkler systems installed by 2001. Installing the systems in 100 year old houses wasn't easy and so virtually every house was renovated. Many houses were shut down (not the fraternity but the house) for one to two years; many at the same time. From 2000 til about 2004 many houses were struggling, but not so today. Walking through the houses this year (I'm a few years removed but toured several houses) and meeting a lot of brothers I feel safe to say there are currently about 10 (~1/2 of the total) solid houses to consider. Again when I pledged/rushed I only considered two.

But, back on topic... I can think of several UNC fraternities that at one point initiated women. St. Anthony's hall of course is still pretty similar to the picture of the Brown fraternity; they are an outlier on the Greek scene. Also Lambda Chi at one point, I believe had female brothers; I don't know how good that chapter is now but their house is a beautiful carolina blue. Pi Lamb definitely had women (I saw a composite or two in their bathroom containing ladies); from what I've seen and heard they are a good chapter. I believe several of the "golf course" fraternities went this way too: ZBT, Delta Sig and PKP. I think these have all folded/maybe went local.
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Old 06-29-2008, 11:46 PM
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For those asking about Chi Psi at UNC.. no it's not "Big Four", but it's a very respectable chapter. Beautiful house on the largest piece of property. From what I understand, Chi Psi is the largest private land owner in Chapel Hill (i.e. not the University). But, they do dress like the Wizard of Oz in the composites. It's just their tradition.
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Old 06-29-2008, 10:12 PM
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I love this! We also do composites in a different way, we take them ourselves and have a theme (which I'm not going to share over the internet) that is consistent over the years. After, we each sign the bottom of our own picture, and I have to say that I value these pictures that show character alot more than formal pictures. To each their own though, and I can definitely see the value in having a very nice formal composite, and I wouldn't mind having one formal composite in addition to our traditional one.
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Old 06-30-2008, 11:08 AM
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Funny, that's how I felt about NIU.
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