Meet the US Army's 1st 4 star Female General

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

It's not a "provable" assertion - it's simply a theory or concept. In general, though, I agree with your point, but here I don't think it's super necessary.



I'm not saying you'd be afraid to say it to my face, but rather that arguments of the sort don't make any sense there, and shouldn't here.



Like I said, I'm sure this is true - it doesn't automatically exclude the possibility of political shenanigans.

What if she was well qualified after 30 years, but there was no political expedience? Why weren't other qualified women put into this spot? We can't answer these questions, but it's an interesting concept, and not "inane" as you asserted.



OK - that's fine if you feel that way, but I think your outrage is misplaced (also, I'm not 'beefing' but rather disagreeing - this isn't personal), since no one said "it's only because she's a woman!" or "it's only because they needed a woman for political reasons!" (both of which would be a legitimate 'slap in the face'), but rather that the timing may be beneficial to one candidate, which naturally lead to speculation and skepticism about the timing, not the candidate.

1. I am not 'outraged' as you so finely put it...you take that I use my words as a hammer and not a scalpel and confuse it with outrage or anger... figure this... I shoot straight from the hip...with certain ones of you here I don't have time to waste being 'nice', I say what I have to say and roll on...I would have thought after one year...you would have figured that out.


2. Of course it's not super necessary and this could have died awhile ago if folks didn't keep jumping in trying to add on...I simply think it's a whacked out theory and unless someone can show otherwise...leave it be.

3. Sense? mmmmkay.....

4. Why weren't other qualified women.... siiiiiiiiigh....I think therein lies the whole point of the thread and something that we shouldn't dissect so dayumed much unless we have the inner working pf upper level military CoC at our disposal. WE DON'T KNOW. What we DO know is from the article, she was highly qualified and thus that is why she was nominated and approved. Now, here is the rub....were there men that were considered from the promotion that she competed with? Were there minority candidates? (Rhetorical....) Who else among her peers were also considered this promotion that she got it instead of them?


5. So, let's come to this, since this is obviously what some of you feel needs to be discussed...why (and what are the) would it benefit any candidate that she be promoted now as opposed to any other time?

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

1. I am not 'outraged' as you so finely put it...you take that I use my words as a hammer and not a scalpel and confuse it with outrage or anger... figure this... I shoot straight from the hip...with certain ones of you here I don't have time to waste being 'nice', I say what I have to say and roll on...I would have thought after one year...you would have figured that out.

Trust me, I have it figured out - sometimes your "from the hip" approach is clear to you, but not really to anyone else, so I'm asking for clarification. It's not a dick move, I just don't get where you're coming from sometimes.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

4. Why weren't other qualified women.... siiiiiiiiigh....I think therein lies the whole point of the thread and something that we shouldn't dissect so dayumed much unless we have the inner working pf upper level military CoC at our disposal. WE DON'T KNOW. What we DO know is from the article, she was highly qualified and thus that is why she was nominated and approved. Now, here is the rub....were there men that were considered from the promotion that she competed with? Were there minority candidates? (Rhetorical....) Who else among her peers were also considered this promotion that she got it instead of them?

So you're basically saying that the Occam's Razor approach would be to trust the motives and etc. of the higher-ups?

Because generally, you're quite skeptical, especially of government or when it comes to society's treatment of protected classes (such as women in the workforce), so I'm just making sure I'm clear here.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

5. So, let's come to this, since this is obviously what some of you feel needs to be discussed...why (and what are the) would it benefit any candidate that she be promoted now as opposed to any other time?

You may disagree with the utility of the mechanism, but it seems straightforward - McCain is closely aligned with (his own) military service and the military in general. Indeed, even his campaign logo uses a "military-style" star, so this alignment is recognized and embraced.

Positive, progressive press for the military - again, an institution with which McCain is closely aligned in the minds of many - may just serve as an indication of "progress" in the minds of some voters, which would be quite useful when competing for swing voters against a candidate whose entire platform is based on "change." This is especially true because McCain is markedly older than Obama, and may be associated with a less-progressive Republican party.

Will it work? I have no idea. Does it seem possible that the reasons for waiting until a slow point in the election cycle to appoint a new General may utilize such thinking? Sure, why not?