Question on Rushing in my 30s (Fraternity)

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

Just my two cents but:

(This portion isn't meant to inflame or anger anyone, it's just what I have been exposed to/heard about/know of the APO at my school. Again, organizations differ by school, so take this as what they are considered at my school.)

First and foremost, at my school, APO is considered a club (by the school and by the students), just like a professional GLO. They don't sit on any sort of fraternity or sorority board, thusly I do not consider them a fraternity. Just because you call yourself a fraternity does not automatically make it so.

Also, APO at my university has more drama, bullshit, and members that dislike each other than any social fraternity/sorority (There was a case of several people deactivating because one of their friends didn't get elected president, along with cases of members openly disliking other ones and bashing them. I've also had a friend who kicked her own APO members out of a party she was having because they were talking shit). Take that as you will. My friends in APO feel much less a sense of belonging to a whole than I do with my social fraternity, I've been repeatedly told by so many people that they do it for their resume (and that's how they recruit on campus, just as a resume builder). And again, at my school as long as you do your APO services hours you get in.

But back to the original poster's question!

I don't know the fraternities where you are going, but it really depends. Speaking honestly, I don't know if you would have a lot in common with your undergrad pledge brothers and other potential brothers. That's the key thing I look for when considering people at rush events, whether or not they get along and whether they would fit.

Also, would you be willing to go to all the events that are undoubtedly required of you? Because you're over 30, I don't know if going to sorority mixers would even interest you. Would you be willing to do the undoubted bitch work of cleaning up after a party or mixer?

If you were rushing at my school, I would have to see how you bonded with everyone, especially the newest members just because if you don't really bond or have things in common with them, you probably won't spend time with your pledge class.

Honestly, I, personally, don't think I would pledge at your age, just because of the sheer amount of bitch work and 'paying your dues' you have to do as a pledge.

You have just perfectly made my case of why I prefer all-male chapters of APO over co-ed chapters.

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

You have just perfectly made my case of why I prefer all-male chapters of APO over co-ed chapters.

Nobody asked you.

[CrackerBarrel]

Originally Posted by OTW

Nobody asked you.

Or wanted another conversation about non-social fraternities. OP already established (as everyone with their eyes open already knew) that social fraternities were the topic at hand.

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by OTW

Nobody asked you.

And since when do you control GC?

Originally Posted by nate2512

And since when do you control GC?

Since December 2000.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by OTW

Since December 2000.

Originally Posted by Senusret I

FWIW, my comment to Rainman has nothing to do with social vs. service GLO debate in this thread, but rather his d-baggery in several NPHC and APO threads.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by OTW

FWIW, my comment to Rainman has nothing to do with social vs. service GLO debate in this thread, but rather his d-baggery in several NPHC and APO threads.

several = all

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by OTW

FWIW, my comment to Rainman has nothing to do with social vs. service GLO debate in this thread, but rather his d-baggery in several NPHC and APO threads.

If you got beef with my posts, just start a new thread and say you got beef, rather than be a smart@$$ about it.

I don't get in your way, heck after all these years I really don't post anything to you or at you FWIW, so don't come at me all greasy. Come at me correctly or don't come at all. Kthanx.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by OTW

Nobody asked you.

Nor did I need your (or anyone else's) permission either.

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

You have just perfectly made my case of why I prefer all-male chapters of APO over co-ed chapters.

All-male or co-ed, it makes no difference, its all the same.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by nate2512

All-male or co-ed, it makes no difference, its all the same.

Frankly, you haven't seen much, 'cause between my personal experiences alond and as much infighting in the organization that the very issue has created, it isn't the same at all!

But for the sake of keeping the peace on this topic, I'll leave that alone.