Recruitment Rules Issue

[alphagamgirl06]

yeah this is fall formal recruitment and I think a cor breaks every no pnm contact rule. for some reason the greek adviser at my school suggested it and I am pretty sure we cant do that and if we could i dont think it is a good idea anyway.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by alphagamgirl06

yeah this is fall formal recruitment and I think a cor breaks every no pnm contact rule. for some reason the greek adviser at my school suggested it and I am pretty sure we cant do that and if we could i dont think it is a good idea anyway.

Is this a chapter that's having numbers issues? Some schools have granted exceptions to certain rules to benefit chapters who are struggling a bit.

[alphagamgirl06]

I would say they are kinda having a numbers issue but it really isnt that big they are like 10 girls behind the next smallest chapter and like 22 behind the biggest chapter. I just really dont see how a cor the week before recruitment would really help them.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by alphagamgirl06

I would say they are kinda having a numbers issue but it really isnt that big they are like 10 girls behind the next smallest chapter and like 22 behind the biggest chapter. I just really dont see how a cor the week before recruitment would really help them.

Check with your Greek Advisor and ask him/her if this is something he/she approved to help them get their numbers up before fall, as that could be the case.

[UGAalum94]

And I remember someone on here who discussed that her chapter did something similar. I think it was at a school where even if everyone made quota, they were still going to be way below total, so essentially you could COR/COB year round, including late spring and maybe even summer. And then they would just kind of add the girls to the formal pledge class.

At a school where all chapters aren't COB/CORing all the time, I can't imagine that you'd get too many girls unless you were already rushing them and they were upperclassmen without too many options in formal. How many people wouldn't rather just wait and see and go through with all the chapters?

33Girl, does this sound familiar to you? Or maybe AlphaFrog? Not that it was your chapters, just that I kind of remember you being in the conversation.

[33girl]

Well, that was kind of me - we would bid girls after the semester's class was initiated (like in December or April) and then add them to the spring or fall pledge class. They were "holdovers" if you want to get technical I guess. NPC isn't nuts about it, but AFAIK it is permissible (unlike what our dumbass GA told us). But we never did things a week before rush.

alphagamgirl06 - if this is a COB only for upperclassmen (this is what I think he was probably thinking) it might not be so bad, but here's the thing - if they are the ONLY ones doing it, it's going to make them look bad to the freshmen. "Why is ABC doing that? Do they need extra help or something?"

If they have upperclass girls they KNOW are interested in them and only them, those girls can just wait and get open bids after formal rush if they don't want to go through. I mean I don't think that all of a sudden a chapter that's having numbers problems is going to get a super ginormous pledge class and fill quota AND get up to total. It's possible, but not very probable.

[gpb1874]

It depends on when your formal is too. I believe NPC states that recruitment can only be held during long semesters (fall & spring). When formal is done a week or so before school starts, that's OK, but I don't think that would apply to COR (COB, when used correctly, only happens directly after formal and is for chapters to fill open spots. COR happens in spring to fill open spots, or in fall if it's a deferred campus).

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

33Girl, does this sound familiar to you? Or maybe AlphaFrog? Not that it was your chapters, just that I kind of remember you being in the conversation.

I just saw this post - we had numbers issues and COBed all the way through the fall and spring, but I don't think they would have allowed us to COB before rush. I see what they're getting at, going into rush with less numbers can make it an uphill battle...PNMs can see which sorority is the smallest, and they start assuming (sometimes rightly) that because of that, it's the struggling one. Most people don't want to join a struggling chapter. So, in order to let this chapter get to where everyone else is, numbers wise, they're going to let them pick up girls before rush even starts. Here's the problem though: I think having a bunch of girls who aren't prepped for rush and don't even know your sorority's basic facts would be more of a detriment than the numbers issue. I suppose you could set them up doing "behind the scenes" things, but sooner or later, the PNMs are going to notice that there's a whole group of girls who have no idea what's going on.

[AnchorAlumna]

The greek advisor may NOT know...sometimes they are guys who aren't familiar with NPC rules...sometimes they have never been an NPC member and don't know...sometimes it's a staff person who's been given the job with no additional pay and they couldn't care less...
Those rules should be written down somewhere.

[LAblondeGPhi]

Originally Posted by alphagamgirl06

yeah this is fall formal recruitment and I think a cor breaks every no pnm contact rule. for some reason the greek adviser at my school suggested it and I am pretty sure we cant do that and if we could i dont think it is a good idea anyway.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that either you're not telling us half the info we need, or you're not understanding the situation fully yourself... or both.

If your greek advisor suggested it, then obviously there are circumstances that we aren't in the know about, so how could we possibly give a complete/accurate answer?

[alphagamgirl06]

Originally Posted by LAblondeGPhi

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that either you're not telling us half the info we need, or you're not understanding the situation fully yourself... or both.

If your greek advisor suggested it, then obviously there are circumstances that we aren't in the know about, so how could we possibly give a complete/accurate answer?

I dont really know what other info there is to give the suggestion was kinda out of the blue. He is new to the job and I thinking he just doesnt really know panhellenic rules.