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			That really is very sad.  There are still trees remaining though.  I was glad to read in the article that many French were upset about it as well and were determined to keep those that still exist. 
 
I read some of the comments posted after the article.  The ones that were anti-France saddened me too.  It's not as if the entire country decided the fate of those trees.  We are still allies and I hope we will remain so for many years to come.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				That really is very sad.  There are still trees remaining though.  I was glad to read in the article that many French were upset about it as well and were determined to keep those that still exist. 
 
I read some of the comments posted after the article.  The ones that were anti-France saddened me too.  It's not as if the entire country decided the fate of those trees.  We are still allies and I hope we will remain so. 
			
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 Yeah I hope so to, but what i think is interesting, the FR and the US never went to war.  We fought Spain, Germany, Britain, Italy, but never the French Republic/France.  
 
And yeah, it sucks trees were taken down, but don't local governments screw up on that kind of stuff all the time.  I mean, seriously both the US and France are great countries but need a wake up call if the thing that causes such an outroar is that someone cut down the wrong trees.   What if you/we lived in a country where you could be arrested for walking with only two people at night or where reporters and news anchors "disappear" for dissenting.   Think about it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Yeah I hope so to, but what i think is interesting, the FR and the US never went to war. We fought Spain, Germany, Britain, Italy, but never the French Republic/France.  
  
And yeah, it sucks trees were taken down, but don't local governments screw up on that kind of stuff all the time. I mean, seriously both the US and France are great countries but need a wake up call if the thing that causes such an outroar is that someone cut down the wrong trees. What if you/we lived in a country where you could be arrested for walking with only two people at night or where reporters and news anchors "disappear" for dissenting. Think about it. 
			
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 Uh, no, we never fought France, but we sent a whole lotta boys over there to fight on their behalf. They'd be speaking German right now in Paris if the U.S. hadn't gone over and defended France in 1917 AND 1944. So while I understand the guy took the cheaper option of cutting the trees down rather than pruning them, which is what he was asked to do, someone should have stepped up and said hey, let's at least find a way to preserve the bark. Or as one of the commenters said, at least take thorough digital pictures to preserve every carving and put them on the web or the WWII museum, etc.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
			
			
			
				 
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	
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				Uh, no, we never fought France, but we sent a whole lotta boys over there to fight on their behalf. They'd be speaking German right now in Paris if the U.S. hadn't gone over and defended France in 1917 AND 1944. So while I understand the guy took the cheaper option of cutting the trees down rather than pruning them, which is what he was asked to do, someone should have stepped up and said hey, let's at least find a way to preserve the bark. Or as one of the commenters said, at least take thorough digital pictures to preserve every carving and put them on the web or the WWII museum, etc. 
			
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 well yeah, i wish they would have not been cut down too,
 
the thing about not war w/ FR was just something I noticed...
 
But still, it doesn't seem like they knew what the trees were until after the fact.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				So while I understand the guy took the cheaper option of cutting the trees down rather than pruning them, which is what he was asked to do, someone should have stepped up and said hey, let's at least find a way to preserve the bark. Or as one of the commenters said, at least take thorough digital pictures to preserve every carving and put them on the web or the WWII museum, etc. 
			
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 I was trying to look on the bright side but you're right.  If the guy had made just a single plea to Americans he would have had the funds to prune them instead.  He also could have easily preserved the bark.  Sad.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Uh, no, we never fought France, but we sent a whole lotta boys over there to fight on their behalf. They'd be speaking German right now in Paris if the U.S. hadn't gone over and defended France in 1917 AND 1944. So while I understand the guy took the cheaper option of cutting the trees down rather than pruning them, which is what he was asked to do, someone should have stepped up and said hey, let's at least find a way to preserve the bark. Or as one of the commenters said, at least take thorough digital pictures to preserve every carving and put them on the web or the WWII museum, etc. 
			
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 I agree with both the above postings-to a point. 
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				I agree with both the above postings-to a point. 
Check out the French and Indian Wars.    
			
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 That was a European War, some of which was fought on North American soil.
 
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 You okay?  Lay down if you start to feel lightheaded.
  
I'm more of a hawk than you probably think I am, SEC.  I have lots of military in my family and both of my grandfathers were overseas in WWII.  I don't, however, believe that being pro-military has to equal being pro-war (in fact, it's a whole other bag of emotions when you have family on the front line), and I temper my pro-military hoorah with primarily liberal social beliefs mixed in with a bit of fiscal conservatism (that still provides for the neediest in society).  I think you mainly identify me by my "social justice crusader" bend.  And that's ok.  I'd probably fall out of my chair if one day you agreed with me on, say, gay marriage.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
			
			
			
				 
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	
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You okay? Lay down if you start to feel lightheaded. 
  
I'm more of a hawk than you probably think I am, SEC. I have lots of military in my family and both of my grandfathers were overseas in WWII. 
			
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				I don't, however, believe that being pro-military has to equal being pro-war (in fact, it's a whole other bag of emotions when you have family on the front line), and I temper my pro-military hoorah with primarily liberal social beliefs mixed in with a bit of fiscal conservatism (that still provides for the neediest in society). I think you mainly identify me by my "social justice crusader" bend. And that's ok. I'd probably fall out of my chair if one day you agreed with me on, say, gay marriage.
			
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 Me too. 
My goal is to make you a McCain supporter, it shouldn't be hard if you have an ounce of fiscal conservatism in you.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				My goal is to make you a McCain supporter 
			
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