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Old 06-05-2008, 07:02 PM
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In no way is this true.

I can have an "artistic endeavor" of holding a gun to my head in Central Park, but unless I clear it with, say, the police etc. (getting permits, letting them know, roping off an area, putting up signs) to show that it is indeed a "sincere" effort, I will likely be taken into custody for my own care. I likely should be.

We can come up with numerous similar corner cases, but it's clear that you are taking your well-noted extreme Libertarian stance a bit too far here.

It 100% matters whether this was sincere, both in judging the validity of closing the display and in judging the "artist" herself.

well yeah, you need a permit, but they can't deny you one just because they don't like it.

and if you went through with it, then it counts as an artistic effort, whether you mean it or not. You could be faking the motivation for holding a gun to your head, but you still have a right to due it (barring lack of proper paper-work of course)
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Old 06-06-2008, 01:42 AM
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well yeah, you need a permit, but they can't deny you one just because they don't like it.

and if you went through with it, then it counts as an artistic effort, whether you mean it or not. You could be faking the motivation for holding a gun to your head, but you still have a right to due it (barring lack of proper paper-work of course)
If you have to apply for a permit....pretty sure they can deny you one fairly easily. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that they really don't have to tell you shit about why you aren't getting one either. I've been involved with getting permits to hold events in public and have been rejected before with no explanation.
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Old 06-06-2008, 01:59 AM
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Old 06-06-2008, 08:58 AM
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well yeah, you need a permit, but they can't deny you one just because they don't like it.

and if you went through with it, then it counts as an artistic effort, whether you mean it or not. You could be faking the motivation for holding a gun to your head, but you still have a right to due it (barring lack of proper paper-work of course)
They can deny it to you for other reasons, though. There are limits to everything, even one's right to express themselves.
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Old 06-06-2008, 09:08 AM
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They can deny it to you for other reasons, though. There are limits to everything, even one's right to express themselves.
Right but I don't think the issue was the he didn't have a permit. And it's not like it was outdoors and loud and in a park.

As far as he was being where he was, that is between him and the property owner/manager.

And seriously, if a permit like that was denied, the event would most likely still happen, just some place else.
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