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06-02-2008, 05:39 PM
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do you mean over the course of rush week, or during NME/pledge period?
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Over the course of rush week.
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06-02-2008, 05:39 PM
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do you mean over the course of rush week, or during NME/pledge period? or after said PNM is initiated? I'd think the issue would be more the lying than the actual "being black" part.
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I think she meant during rush week.
Edit: Nvm, she beat me to it.
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06-02-2008, 05:51 PM
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Over the course of rush week.
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see, in the scenario you described, it could always be explained as "oh, well maybe if Patty PNM was honest with us from the beginning... how can we ever trust her in the future???"
then the race issue is totally muddled in an argument that is far from the original action.
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06-02-2008, 06:11 PM
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I think it is pretty safe to assume that there have been instances of minorities being released from chapters simply for being minorities. You'll never get an answer on any given case, because like everyone has said, membership selection is secret. I hope that these occurances have decreased, but I am not hopeful enough to think that they don't still occur! To the OP, no one will be able to tell you how you will be received. Go through recruitment. Be yourself, and see if you feel comfortable with the members of the NPC sororities. I wish you the best of luck in finding a sisterhood who accepts you for who you are regardless of your race!
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06-02-2008, 09:06 PM
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Wow. Do some folks heerah need to read their histories!!!
Well, as a member of the first African American Sorority to celebrate her Centennial where there will be a huge display in DC, there should be very few questions about my Sorority after this shindig. I know, we will be paying for it for YEARS to come!!!
Yes, Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. is focused on community service in the African American community--generally entrepreneurship, economics and business. Yes, we have numerous women of various cultural groups, the most famous is first lady, Eleanor Roosevelt.
If we cared about a way a person looks compared to the service they do then we would not have done our historical programs, Mississippi Health Project, Cleveland Job Corps and partnerships with Pillsbury, Daimler/Chrysler, Tyson Foods, L'oreal and numerous other organizations.
My question: Why must ANY NPHC Sorority continually be forced to prove these connections to people? It is what we do. The problems of the African American community are not solved by ignorance. And don't start me quoting stats because they are staggering.
Now join a different organization, I wish the best of luck for you. But, if you roll up in a jacket with a "line name" and "number" with letters folks are clueless about, you will get clowned in your locale.
Personally, I don't care--but, "I'd rather see a sermon that to hear one anyday..."
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06-03-2008, 12:21 AM
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Now join a different organization, I wish the best of luck for you. But, if you roll up in a jacket with a "line name" and "number" with letters folks are clueless about, you will get clowned in your locale.
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I think what does turn some minorities away from rushing NPC is the fact they feel they may be judged by their community. My best friend and Sis-daughter is African- American and she told me about how she felt like she was being judged by other African Americans on campus simply because she joined Alpha Gam and not a NPHC. I think they should have just been happy that she found a great sisterhood that was right for her.
There are various races in all Greek organizations but just because an organization is historically Black or Latino doesn't mean exclusive. I think that some white people have the same hang ups with joining these organizations as minorities have with NPC. But I commend those who go for what feels best to them regardless of what their peers may think. We all know that at some point in history member selection process factored in the race and or religion, whether it is still going on now who knows because some people are to close minded accept something different then themselves.I think it is time to move on in a positive direction I am not saying forget the past but lets look at the future. Sisterhood is all about a connection you feel with a certain group. Find a group that you make that connection with and don't settle for anything less.
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06-03-2008, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by alphagamgirl06
I think what does turn some minorities away from rushing NPC is the fact they feel they may be judged by their community. My best friend and Sis-daughter is African- American and she told me about how she felt like she was being judged by other African Americans on campus simply because she joined Alpha Gam and not a NPHC. I think they should have just been happy that she found a great sisterhood that was right for her.
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We were rushing this girl and gave her an open bid and she signed it, but then never began pledging. She told sisters it was because she was getting hassled by members of the NPHC groups on campus. Funny how she ended up pledging a different NPC the next year with no "hassle."
I'm not saying it never happens - obviously it does, or we wouldn't have believed her explanation - but I think sometimes it really is a load of hooey.
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06-03-2008, 11:11 AM
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We were rushing this girl and gave her an open bid and she signed it, but then never began pledging. She told sisters it was because she was getting hassled by members of the NPHC groups on campus. Funny how she ended up pledging a different NPC the next year with no "hassle."
I'm not saying it never happens - obviously it does, or we wouldn't have believed her explanation - but I think sometimes it really is a load of hooey.
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I could see that happening...why do we (black folks) have to always bring each other down when one of us gets into something mostly white? At the end of the day we're all black being in NPC doesnt mean you switch sides. However I keep wondering how I could find sisterhood with people who may not understand someone of a different ethincity. I've been in my share of clubs and had my share of white friends, the majority of them were nice but acted as if I was from Mars when it came to certian things....go figure.
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06-03-2008, 11:15 AM
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I could see that happening...why do we (black folks) have to always bring each other down when one of us gets into something mostly white?
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Clearly you didn't attend the last Black People Convention, for if you had, you'd know it's in our collective mission to socially ostracize black women in NPCs. (Refer to your Little Black Book, Chapter 7, Section C: The NPHC shall destroy all others who stand in our way....)
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06-03-2008, 11:20 AM
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Clearly you didn't attend the last Black People Convention, for if you had, you'd know it's in our collective mission to socially ostracize black women in NPCs. (Refer to your Little Black Book, Chapter 7, Section C: The NPHC shall destroy all others who stand in our way....)
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06-03-2008, 11:25 AM
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I could see that happening...why do we (black folks) have to always bring each other down when one of us gets into something mostly white? At the end of the day we're all black being in NPC doesnt mean you switch sides. However I keep wondering how I could find sisterhood with people who may not understand someone of a different ethincity. I've been in my share of clubs and had my share of white friends, the majority of them were nice but acted as if I was from Mars when it came to certian things....go figure.
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I don't think you got the point of my post.
She didn't refrain from pledging us because black people were "bringing her down" or pressuring her in any way. She didn't pledge us because she wanted to pledge another NPC sorority that she liked better and instead of having the balls to say so, she blamed it on the black/white thing.
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06-03-2008, 11:27 AM
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I keep wondering how I could find sisterhood with people who may not understand someone of a different ethincity. I've been in my share of clubs and had my share of white friends, the majority of them were nice but acted as if I was from Mars when it came to certian things....go figure.
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Because you are a woman. Women from the north don't always understand people from the south and vice versa, but they are women. Jewish women and Christian women definitely have different backgrounds, but can share a sisterhood. (And Buddhists, etc.) Heck women with weight problems experience life differently than those who don't. Once you find your home in a sisterhood, that will be your bond. We are all different in many different ways. Focus on the values of the group and follow your heart.
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06-03-2008, 12:55 PM
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I could see that happening...why do we (black folks) have to always bring each other down when one of us gets into something mostly white? At the end of the day we're all black being in NPC doesnt mean you switch sides. However I keep wondering how I could find sisterhood with people who may not understand someone of a different ethincity. I've been in my share of clubs and had my share of white friends, the majority of them were nice but acted as if I was from Mars when it came to certian things....go figure.
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You just need to observe greek culture more without making assumptions because it's obvious you know very little regarding the topic. That girl was probably lieing. She is only one person and we don't actively recruit, hassle, or go after anyone. I doubt she was close enough to members in the NPHC to make them want to "hassle" her about anything. Just observe please. Befriend some NPHC/NPC members on your campus or something (although one campus/chapter may not be the best example to provide insight).
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06-03-2008, 01:11 PM
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I could see that happening...why do we (black folks) have to always bring each other down when one of us gets into something mostly white?
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06-03-2008, 01:35 PM
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Can we change the title of this thread? There is a lot of NPHC discussion for the name to be accurate anymore.
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