Blacks that rush NPC

[taurus0426]

Originally Posted by 33girl

We were rushing this girl and gave her an open bid and she signed it, but then never began pledging. She told sisters it was because she was getting hassled by members of the NPHC groups on campus. Funny how she ended up pledging a different NPC the next year with no "hassle."

I'm not saying it never happens - obviously it does, or we wouldn't have believed her explanation - but I think sometimes it really is a load of hooey.

I could see that happening...why do we (black folks) have to always bring each other down when one of us gets into something mostly white? At the end of the day we're all black being in NPC doesnt mean you switch sides. However I keep wondering how I could find sisterhood with people who may not understand someone of a different ethincity. I've been in my share of clubs and had my share of white friends, the majority of them were nice but acted as if I was from Mars when it came to certian things....go figure.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by taurus0426

I could see that happening...why do we (black folks) have to always bring each other down when one of us gets into something mostly white?

Clearly you didn't attend the last Black People Convention, for if you had, you'd know it's in our collective mission to socially ostracize black women in NPCs. (Refer to your Little Black Book, Chapter 7, Section C: The NPHC shall destroy all others who stand in our way....)

[aopirose]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Clearly you didn't attend the last Black People Convention, for if you had, you'd know it's in our collective mission to socially ostracize black women in NPCs. (Refer to your Little Black Book, Chapter 7, Section C: The NPHC shall destroy all others who stand in our way....)

I.CAN'T.BREATHE.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by taurus0426

I could see that happening...why do we (black folks) have to always bring each other down when one of us gets into something mostly white? At the end of the day we're all black being in NPC doesnt mean you switch sides. However I keep wondering how I could find sisterhood with people who may not understand someone of a different ethincity. I've been in my share of clubs and had my share of white friends, the majority of them were nice but acted as if I was from Mars when it came to certian things....go figure.

I don't think you got the point of my post.

She didn't refrain from pledging us because black people were "bringing her down" or pressuring her in any way. She didn't pledge us because she wanted to pledge another NPC sorority that she liked better and instead of having the balls to say so, she blamed it on the black/white thing.

[RaggedyAnn]

Originally Posted by taurus0426

I keep wondering how I could find sisterhood with people who may not understand someone of a different ethincity. I've been in my share of clubs and had my share of white friends, the majority of them were nice but acted as if I was from Mars when it came to certian things....go figure.

Because you are a woman. Women from the north don't always understand people from the south and vice versa, but they are women. Jewish women and Christian women definitely have different backgrounds, but can share a sisterhood. (And Buddhists, etc.) Heck women with weight problems experience life differently than those who don't. Once you find your home in a sisterhood, that will be your bond. We are all different in many different ways. Focus on the values of the group and follow your heart.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by taurus0426

I could see that happening...why do we (black folks) have to always bring each other down when one of us gets into something mostly white? At the end of the day we're all black being in NPC doesnt mean you switch sides. However I keep wondering how I could find sisterhood with people who may not understand someone of a different ethincity. I've been in my share of clubs and had my share of white friends, the majority of them were nice but acted as if I was from Mars when it came to certian things....go figure.

You just need to observe greek culture more without making assumptions because it's obvious you know very little regarding the topic. That girl was probably lieing. She is only one person and we don't actively recruit, hassle, or go after anyone. I doubt she was close enough to members in the NPHC to make them want to "hassle" her about anything. Just observe please. Befriend some NPHC/NPC members on your campus or something (although one campus/chapter may not be the best example to provide insight).

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by taurus0426

I could see that happening...why do we (black folks) have to always bring each other down when one of us gets into something mostly white?

[couggirl]

Originally Posted by taurus0426

I could see that happening...why do we (black folks) have to always bring each other down when one of us gets into something mostly white? .

I think, in part, women just treat each other badly when we (other women) do things that the other does not like. i have a lot of older female relatives who act like there is something seriously wrong with me because at 18 I went to college instead of getting married and/or having babies.

It is my opinion that this behavior is not just a race thing, but more just human behavior.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by couggirl

It is my opinion that this behavior is not just a race thing, but more just human behavior.

Yes, so I assume you only mentioned "women" in the earlier part of your post because the thread is about NPC. The logic equally applies to men.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by taurus0426

I could see that happening...why do we (black folks) have to always bring each other down when one of us gets into something mostly white? At the end of the day we're all black being in NPC doesnt mean you switch sides. However I keep wondering how I could find sisterhood with people who may not understand someone of a different ethincity. I've been in my share of clubs and had my share of white friends, the majority of them were nice but acted as if I was from Mars when it came to certian things....go figure.

Let's be honest here folks... Some African American NPC members here on GC were lamenting about the absence of other African American women within their ranks and they are wondering why they experienced this issue?

Now we have a young lady here who grew up in a world and misses the point about the kind of historical ostracism endured by NUMEROUS African American women, especially after college graduation. These women have told me the problems they have encountered practically makes them cuckoo--especially when dealing with bigotry and racism...

Now, hey, none of the NPHC women care if Black woman joins a different organization. So what is it to us? We do get membership requests to join by women at the graduate level and when we background check them and determined they have joined a different organization, we have to deny them membership. At the undergraduate level, we are almost getting to the point to saying that if that is what homegirl wanted, then good luck!

But what the NPHC is talking about is "marketability"--answering the question about who's our market. Currently, the NPHC sororities' market generally are women of African descent and their causes and issues. For my Sorority, entrepreneurship/businesses is our programmatic focus. Since, Soror Johnson-Sirleaf the current President of Liberia is a member, that means we are global in our outreach programs.

The other NPHC sororities also have their global programs, especially in Africa--that is beyond money, food, books and clothes. It means members help build hospitals, schools and agriculture.

My question remains unanswered Why do any of the NPHC Sororities continually have to justify our actions to non-members who really will never apply to membership? Aren't we just wasting resources?

[PANTHERTEKE]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Now, hey, none of the NPHC women care if a Black woman joins a different organization. So what is it to us?

You may not, and I'm sure most of the more older and mature graduate members of NPHC orgs may not, but we all know that attitudes are different in the undergraduate level.

My school probably has the most diverse IFC/NPC membership of any school, and yet my Black grand-big sister has had instances where she has been treated condescendingly by NPHC sorority members when they discover she belongs to an NPC sorority.

Some people need to stop living in this Utopian GC world where everyone accepts everyone and everyone gets along, because that is not the case in real life.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

You may not, and I'm sure most of the more older and mature graduate members of NPHC orgs may not, but we all know that attitudes are different in the undergraduate level.

My school probably has the most diverse IFC/NPC membership of any school, and yet my Black grand-big sister has had instances where she has been treated condescendingly by NPHC sorority members when they discover she belongs to an NPC sorority.

Some people need to stop living in this Utopian GC world where everyone accepts everyone and everyone gets along, because that is not the case in real life.

You attend a PWI, right? Do you still have Affirmative Action in your state? Because my state does not. So the numbers of African Americans matriculating thru the schools are dwindling--like 400 during Affirmative Action and 89 after abolishment of Affirmative Action. So when the numbers of African American women are small, or dayum near absent, the ability to seek qualified members on these campi are removed.

Undergraduates who are members of NPHC Sororities are bombarded with questions by their supervising graduate chapter and alumnae members to explain why little interest on their campi. Why would a nice African American college aged woman NOT want to be interested in XYZ NPHC sorority? We have scholarships, internships, specialized programs in their majors--WTH is wrong with you all? Apparently, that anger and frustration is transferred to non-members.

The reason why I am vehement is a because I was a former graduate advisor. That is how come I know what it takes to be a member at the undergraduate level. When a young lady chooses something else versus us, our talent base gets diffused. It means that the student population--specifically the GLO population is NOT talking to each other, which breed division and ignorance. Better guidance and advising with cultural competency by adults will further enrich the experiences of all GLOs on your campuses. That does not go on to say a girl who wants to be part of whatever other sorority cannot be. What that means in the best interests and long-term outlook, what are her true intentions? If she is joining an NPC sorority for "better networking"--because Caucasian people have better networks--then that is foul. Believe me, we in the NPHC are quite adept in detecting that lunacy. Same with us, if a non-Black girl wants to join an NPHC we are going to ask well how hard are you going to work in the face of bigotry and ignorance?

Maybe we have to do a mock Recruitment period to see if we like it? I don't know? Just throwing ideas out there...

How well has your GLO outreached to ANY NPHC Sorority?

[PANTHERTEKE]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

You attend a PWI, right? Do your still have Affirmative Action in your state? Because my state does not. So when the numbers of African American women are small, or dayum near absent, the ability to seek qualified members on these campi are removed.

No, Florida does not. I attend a "PWI" but make-up of the university is 58% Hispanic and African Americans constitute 13% of the student body, so the IFC/NPC membership is pretty diverse and membership in GLOs reflects the demographics of the school (FIU in case you were wondering).

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Undergraduates who are members of NPHC Sororities are bombarded by explaining to their graduate members how come there is little interest on their campi. Why would a nice African American college aged woman would NOT be interested in XYZ NPHC sorority? We have scholarships, internships, specialized programs in their majors--what's wrong?

Nothing is wrong with NPHC sororities. Perhaps some Black girls just feel more at home in an NPC org. And isn't that what fraternities and sororities are all about fundamentally- feeling at home where you are?

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

How well has your GLO outreached to ANY NPHC Sorority?

Well, the last time I spoke to one of your sisters of the Simga "Pretty" Pi chapter, she informed me that there were 10 active undergraduates and that 2 were seniors. This was around April. Being that the population of NPHC sororities at my school is very small, not much can be done.

But if you must know, we have a cordial relationship with AKAs and were pretty much the only IFC fraternity that wished them a happy founders day on January 15th. The Deltas and Zetas in Miami are a city-wide chapter, so they are barely seen on campus. No SGRhos.

So, you're right, its hard to do any outreach when numbers are low.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

Nothing is wrong with NPHC sororities. Perhaps some Black girls just feel more at home in an NPC org. And isn't that what fraternities and sororities are all about fundamentally- feeling at home where you are?

Lemme explain it to you this way our Graduate chapters oversee our undergraduate chapters. There is this symbiotic relationship. Yes, at some point, the undergraduate chapters are "independent" - free to choose their members (to some degree). I can ONLY speak on Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. So, without the Graduate chapter's "blessing" so to speak, the UG chapter does NOT exist... Period...

With that being said, how does an UG chapter explain to a 25+ years in the Sorority member that there are no members to be found at a school like yours--and that is because today, sorority sister's daughter wants to join another "type" of sorority--given the kinds of commitments we uphold?

Are you understanding my question?

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

Well, the last time I spoke to one of your sisters of the Simga "Pretty" Pi chapter, she informed me that there were 10 active undergraduates and that 2 were seniors. This was around April. Being that the population of NPHC sororities at my school is very small, not much can be done.

So, you're right, its hard to do any outreach when numbers are low.

I am unclear on what you are saying? Help me understand? Are you saying there is no purpose for a chapter of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. at your University? Are you saying that you have intimate knowledge of what it took to charter a chapter from my Sorority on your campus? You know there is a reason why a chapter was chartered there--and it usually is not because some member thought it would be cool because that is false...

[PANTHERTEKE]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Lemme explain it to you this way our Graduate chapters oversee our undergraduate chapters. There is this symbiotic relationship. Yes, at some point, the undergraduate chapters are "independent" - free to choose their members (to some degree). I can ONLY speak on Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. So, without the Graduate chapter's "blessing" so to speak, the UG chapter does NOT exist... Period...

With that being said, how does an UG chapter explain to a 25+ years in the Sorority member that there are no members to be found at a school like yours--and that is because today, sorority sister's daughter wants to join another "type" of sorority--given the kinds of commitments we uphold?

Are you understanding my question?

Yes, I understand.

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

I am unclear on what you are saying? Help me understand? Are you saying there is no purpose for a chapter of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. at your University? Are you saying that you have intimate knowledge of what it took to charter a chapter from my Sorority on your campus? You know there is a reason why a chapter was chartered there--and it usually is not because some member thought it would be cool because that is false...

No, I am not saying any of that lol. I'm not sure how you took that from my post. I was just trying to respond to your question of what my GLO has done to outreach any NPHC sorority on my campus.

I prefaced it with the small size of the AKA chapter here and the lack of visibility from other NPHC sororities to make that point that it is hard to do any outreach when numbers are low.