California's top court overturns gay marriage ban

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Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Why? Don't these people deserve as much right to their human rights as anyone else? To express themselves freely and openly?

For some people religion is the "equation".

To the first point- they have ever right to express themselves. What I am saying is that it would be too much to expect legal unions to be extended to cover situations where a union of 3+ would be considered.

A common argument against gay marriage is the "slippery slope" argument- if you let a man marry a man, then next some freak will be complaining about his right to marry a man and a woman, or a donkey or something.

And so I am saying you have to draw the line at couples- and in doing so one is making a judgement call that confers unequal legal protections for some people who are not in what might be called "traditional heterosexual relationships."

My justification for that is that it is a matter of numbers- you can't please everybody- and that while it is not disruptive to society to have same sex couples, it would be problematic to have unions in situations where a person- by virtue of their wide ranging appetites- would be very likely to divorce and re-wed many times. At the end of the day it is important for our courts and society to continue to discourage divorce except in cases where there are legitimate grounds like adultery or abuse.

This is where I draw the line, others draw it elsewhere.


As to your second point, I appreciate that religion is the equation for some people- but history has shown very well where that leads. I take my Christian values and upbringing very seriously, and the Bible itself makes it crystal clear that believers are to follow the laws of society and be respectful of all facets of society. Jesus didn't hang out with self-righteous socialites back in the day- but with the very kind of people most who think "religion is the equation" don't think have a right to decent treatment at all.

This is the problem with bringing the Bible into a discussion about government policy. Often the Bible itself contains teachings which demonstrate why it should not be used in the formation of government policy that discriminates against any part of the citizenry. That is not part of- to be overly simplistic and general about it- Judeo-Christian morality.