Michelle Obama rumor- October surprise

[shinerbock]

Putting Michelle Obama off limits is like girls who try to start fights with guys.

You can't hold yourself out as someone with clout sufficient to influence voters and then hide behind your husband. I don't want people to make fun of her personal appearance, or go after her child-raising abilities, or anything of that sort. But if she's got extreme views and was dumb enough to state them for a camera, I certainly think that is relevant. If Cindy McCain turned out to be a white supremacist, I certainly wouldn't want her to represent this country as First Lady.

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Putting Michelle Obama off limits is like girls who try to start fights with guys.

You can't hold yourself out as someone with clout sufficient to influence voters and then hide behind your husband. I don't want people to make fun of her personal appearance, or go after her child-raising abilities, or anything of that sort. But if she's got extreme views and was dumb enough to state them for a camera, I certainly think that is relevant. If Cindy McCain turned out to be a white supremacist, I certainly wouldn't want her to represent this country as First Lady.

OMG.

I agree with shinerbock

[33girl]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Putting Michelle Obama off limits is like girls who try to start fights with guys.

You can't hold yourself out as someone with clout sufficient to influence voters and then hide behind your husband. I don't want people to make fun of her personal appearance, or go after her child-raising abilities, or anything of that sort. But if she's got extreme views and was dumb enough to state them for a camera, I certainly think that is relevant. If Cindy McCain turned out to be a white supremacist, I certainly wouldn't want her to represent this country as First Lady.

The biggest reason I will never vote for Al Gore, even if many of the people she affected directly are stupid enough to get on his side.

[EE-BO]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Putting Michelle Obama off limits is like girls who try to start fights with guys.

You can't hold yourself out as someone with clout sufficient to influence voters and then hide behind your husband. I don't want people to make fun of her personal appearance, or go after her child-raising abilities, or anything of that sort. But if she's got extreme views and was dumb enough to state them for a camera, I certainly think that is relevant. If Cindy McCain turned out to be a white supremacist, I certainly wouldn't want her to represent this country as First Lady.

I agree with you depending on how this ever gets out and publicized- if it does. If this gets into the general media via some reporter or pundit putting it out there, that is one thing.

But for anyone in the Republican power structure to push this out there as PhiGam was suggesting is a very dangerous and inappropriate strategy in my view- and it has backfired in the past as my earlier post indicated.

Surely this is frustrating since Obama is definitely getting the kid glove treatment from the media, but that would still make it dangerous for Republican interest groups to be seen getting this story out.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by EE-BO

I agree with you depending on how this ever gets out and publicized- if it does. If this gets into the general media via some reporter or pundit putting it out there, that is one thing.

But for anyone in the Republican power structure to push this out there as PhiGam was suggesting is a very dangerous and inappropriate strategy in my view- and it has backfired in the past as my earlier post indicated.

Surely this is frustrating since Obama is definitely getting the kid glove treatment from the media, but that would still make it dangerous for Republican interest groups to be seen getting this story out.

Yeah, I'm not particularly worried about the backfire. If it happens, it happens. I don't want to go too negative, but there is a significant portion of the public that is wary of Obama and the GOP should certainly explore that hesitation.

If the tape is out there, it'll be distributed without overt party involvement. As one blogger on this story wrote-- the GOP may have been ineffective on the economy and the war lately, they're "hell on wheels" with opposition research. Of all the things that worry me about November, the art of politics in not something the GOP is insufficient in.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

But if she's got extreme views and was dumb enough to state them for a camera, I certainly think that is relevant. If Cindy McCain turned out to be a white supremacist, I certainly wouldn't want her to represent this country as First Lady.

You think Cindy McCain is the EPITOME of a WOMAN... You think differently about Michelle Obama. Since you are incapably of putting her on a pedestal, like you can with Cindy, are you telling the GC public to solely select their next president contingent on a "bikini mud wrestling death match"?

Please come out of the closet with your rhetoric cape and state what you really feel... Stop it with the bullisht. Fearmongerer...

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

You think Cindy McCain is the EPITOME of a WOMAN... You think differently about Michelle Obama. Since you are incapably of putting her on a pedestal, like you can with Cindy, are you telling the GC public to solely select their next president contingent on a "bikini mud wrestling death match"?

Please come out of the closet with your rhetoric cape and state what you really feel... Stop it with the bullisht. Fearmongerer...

Are you high?

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

You think Cindy McCain is the EPITOME of a WOMAN... You think differently about Michelle Obama. Since you are incapably of putting her on a pedestal, like you can with Cindy, are you telling the GC public to solely select their next president contingent on a "bikini mud wrestling death match"?

Can you find one relevant quotation that supports this?

Seriously - these kinds of claims require some sort of citation, otherwise it's just silliness.

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

on a "bikini mud wrestling death match"?

Can this be arranged?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

You think Cindy McCain is the EPITOME of a WOMAN... You think differently about Michelle Obama. Since you are incapably of putting her on a pedestal, like you can with Cindy, are you telling the GC public to solely select their next president contingent on a "bikini mud wrestling death match"?

Please come out of the closet with your rhetoric cape and state what you really feel... Stop it with the bullisht. Fearmongerer...

Count me in with the people who can't figure out where this came from.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

You think Cindy McCain is the EPITOME of a WOMAN... You think differently about Michelle Obama. Since you are incapably of putting her on a pedestal, like you can with Cindy, are you telling the GC public to solely select their next president contingent on a "bikini mud wrestling death match"?

Please come out of the closet with your rhetoric cape and state what you really feel... Stop it with the bullisht. Fearmongerer...

Wow - it doesn't look like anyone is putting Cindy McCain on a pedestal here. The discussion just seems to be about how acceptable it is to bring candidates' wives into the public debate.

I don't see anything wrong with Shiner's posts in this thread. He's not an Obama fan, and he doesn't think that Michelle Obama should be free from criticism. I don't see the problem.

Back on the subject - the statements of potential First Ladies don't make such a difference to me. It's interesting to see where they stand, but it's by no means determinative. If the potential first lady tries to make herself an issue in the campaign (like Theresa Heinz Kerry did during the last cycle), I think they open themselves up to some criticism. I don't think it deserves the same scrutiny as comments made by candidates, though.

[TexasWSP]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

You think Cindy McCain is the EPITOME of a WOMAN... You think differently about Michelle Obama. Since you are incapably of putting her on a pedestal, like you can with Cindy, are you telling the GC public to solely select their next president contingent on a "bikini mud wrestling death match"?

Please come out of the closet with your rhetoric cape and state what you really feel... Stop it with the bullisht. Fearmongerer...

Rule number one....don't smoke crack.

[PhiGam]

I think that the extremist views of a candidate's spouse are more than relevant.

[nate2512]

Once again I pose the question, why were dems worried about how much Cindy McCain filed in taxes last year? Thats a lot less relevant than if Obama's wife is racist or if she holds extremist views?

[PhiGam]

Negative backfire? Yeah right! It's been proven time and time again that negative campaigning is more effective than positive or comparison campaigning.