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05-28-2008, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasWSP
Daemon, from some of the things I've read lately....is there a reason you are so casually dismissive of his military career? Whether or not you like the guy (I like him as a person, not so much as a candidate...along with the other two fails), I think his service and actions are something to be deeply respected. The fact that you would say you don't give a shit about his military career is a little disturbing to be completely honest.
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Mac, as I have said before, I am more concerned as to what he plans to do in the here and now. I am tired of hearing about him being a POW and what he suffered thru...that is history.
And so far, some of those gaffes that he has had don't play too well with all the military accolades he has been given.
So as it stands for me, that was then, you were in a bad situation, fine...you were called a hero for making it...fine...
BUT...
what do you plan on right now doing about :
- The War
- Rising costs of living
- Declining Education
- Dealing with Foreign powers
- Immigration
- Global warming
- Trade and commerce
That's what is important, not how badly he was treated in 'nam.
I have an uncle that can tell you the same stories...
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05-28-2008, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
Mac, as I have said before, I am more concerned as to what he plans to do in the here and now. I am tired of hearing about him being a POW and what he suffered thru...that is history.
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Under this logic, literally anything can be dismissed as "history" because it's not here-and-now . . . everything from Senate experience ("she's acting on her own, so legislative body experience is just that . . . history") to education ("You really think he remembers all those Harvard classes from decades ago?") to doing blow off a stripper's ass ("Let's talk about today, not the past - I'm tired of hearing about him doing blow off hookers.").
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05-28-2008, 12:36 PM
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Under this logic, literally anything can be dismissed as "history" because it's not here-and-now . . . everything from Senate experience ("she's acting on her own, so legislative body experience is just that . . . history") to education ("You really think he remembers all those Harvard classes from decades ago?") to doing blow off a stripper's ass ("Let's talk about today, not the past - I'm tired of hearing about him doing blow off hookers.").
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Let's not confuse things...the candidate's senatoral record or any governmental or legal offices...that to me IS relevant...that right there is a foundation as to why someone should be considered electable...
again, look at the folks I mentioned a while back...nearly nil military experience but ALL managed more than 1 term in office...so why are we making a big deal about McCain's experience? If we are to go by that then considering the 2 term presidents we have had, odds will say that McCain lasting thru more than one term is small at best!
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05-28-2008, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
Let's not confuse things...the candidate's senatoral record or any governmental or legal offices...that to me IS relevant...that right there is a foundation as to why someone should be considered electable...
again, look at the folks I mentioned a while back...nearly nil military experience but ALL managed more than 1 term in office...so why are we making a big deal about McCain's experience? If we are to go by that then considering the 2 term presidents we have had, odds will say that McCain lasting thru more than one term is small at best!
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Well, let's see, maybe because we're at war right now, and probably still will be when the next President takes office.
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05-28-2008, 12:58 PM
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Well, let's see, maybe because we're at war right now, and probably still will be when the next President takes office.
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With the exception of FDR and Bush...we weren't at war when most of those 2 term presidents were in office (unless you count the Cold War and Reagan, otherwise there was no actual combat.) so what exactly are you driving at?
(Toss Nixon in for Vietnam...but he had military experience and not a part of who I mentioned)
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05-28-2008, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
Let's not confuse things...the candidate's senatoral record or any governmental or legal offices...that to me IS relevant...that right there is a foundation as to why someone should be considered electable...
again, look at the folks I mentioned a while back...nearly nil military experience but ALL managed more than 1 term in office...so why are we making a big deal about McCain's experience? If we are to go by that then considering the 2 term presidents we have had, odds will say that McCain lasting thru more than one term is small at best!
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His military experience is going shape his war time choices much more than his experience in the Senate. With all the big deal being made about the Obama-McCain veterans bill situation, his military experience will have a lot to do with his policies.
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