California's top court overturns gay marriage ban

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

But you're talking about religion, sigmadiva. This is a legal matter in a country that embraces the separation of church and state. Why do your religious beliefs get to determine how someone else can live their life?

I'm not trying to gang up on you. I'm just posing a question.


And to all the others who are against gay marriage on the basis of religion (Christianity in particular), suppose this country's population was composed of a majority of a different religion: Islam, Buddhism, Confucianism, Judiaism? Would you still be so willing to let the majority rule your life based on their religious beliefs? Just curious.

Cuidado por favor!

A big component of American culture is supposedly Christianity. The separation of Church and State doesn't apply when the return of Christ Jesus is near! If gays take over, we'll be damned to Hell. You better recognize and get right with the Lord.

<------ a Christian who jokes about humans and religion

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

You better recognize and get right with the Lord.

I know. I'm going straight to Hell.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

I know. I'm going straight to Hell.

Don't feel bad. This will probably happen to me too. At least all of my friends will be there.

[AGDee]

There are many things that parts of the Bible say are wrong but they are legal in our society.. gluttony, greed, pride, gambling, etc. The Bible is a moral guide, not a legal one.

The notion of marriage as a sacrament and not just a contract can be traced St. Paul who compared the relationship of a husband and wife to that of Christ and his church (Eph. v, 23-32). (From a history of marriage) http://marriage.about.com/cs/general...agehistory.htm


Yet, marriage existed long before that. So, it is ok for current Christians to protest changing the definition of marriage yet it was Christians who changed it then? It has changed many times over many cultures over many years.

Heterosexuals can get married without including religion in any way. Any legal references to marriage are only legal, they are not religious. In the eyes of the law you are just married whether you are married by a Justice of the Peace, a Catholic Priest or a Rabbi. Therefore, any religious arguments against gay marriage are illogical because there is no religious component to our current marriage laws. You can choose to be married by a religious officiator but it certainly isn't a requirement.

As to whether homosexuality is a choice, I truly find it hard to believe that you can control who is sexually attractive to you. There are men who are only attracted to blonde women or only attracted to red heads. There are women who are only attracted to tall men or men with facial hair. You can't even control who you are sexually attracted if you are heterosexual! Many of us have met someone of the opposite sex who is kind, fun, and a good friend, but we just can't think of them "that way" for some reason. Sometimes we try very hard to, because we hold that person in high regard and think that we *should* be attracted to them, but we still are not, no matter what we do. You cannot force yourself to be attracted to someone who is not attractive to you. Why would this be any different for homosexuals? If you are not attracted to members of the opposite sex and the only people you have ever been attracted to are of the same sex, then what are you supposed to do?

I never will be able to understand why anybody is against gay marriage as a legal institution. It isn't as though anybody who is going to force someone into a gay marriage against their will. If consenting adults want to pledge themselves to each other for a lifetime, then why shouldn't they be allowed to?