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Old 05-17-2008, 01:09 PM
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Maybe they should get an education so they don't make $6.55/hr.
If working two jobs at minimum wage only lets you live, how precisely are you to find money and time to go to school on top of that?

Oh noes the government would have to give them money, and then they'd be living off of the "hard working Americans" or something.
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:08 PM
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If working two jobs at minimum wage only lets you live, how precisely are you to find money and time to go to school on top of that?

Oh noes the government would have to give them money, and then they'd be living off of the "hard working Americans" or something.
Damn this is dangerous sentiment.
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Old 05-18-2008, 05:04 PM
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If working two jobs at minimum wage only lets you live, how precisely are you to find money and time to go to school on top of that?

Oh noes the government would have to give them money, and then they'd be living off of the "hard working Americans" or something.
No, they wouldn't be living off the hard working americans, they would be using the money for the betterment of themselves and then they would in turn contribute far more money back into the system than they take out. If the minimum wage is set too high, its going to cause inflation and then we'll be in the same boat with the poor people griping about the minimum wage being too low. Go to school get an education.

And while I think I've provided a pretty solid counter argument, I suppose you will have some kind of hole to poke in my argument, so go ahead, shoot.
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Old 05-18-2008, 09:01 PM
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I really don't know anything about the vacation issue. Maybe Bush has been lazy in that regard, but I think a lot of white house personnel would say (from most books I've read on these subjects) that Bush approaches the Presidency in a much more serious and professional manner than Clinton.

I'm not really supportive enough of Bush to defend him generally, but I think he has worked pretty tirelessly, regardless of how you feel about what he was working on or what resulted.

There are good and bad Presidents, but I highly doubt any of them can objectively be called lazy or uncommitted.
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