Why do LGLO/MCGLOs follow NPHC practices?

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Which doesn't mean they actually do more.

I find that people just aren't familiar with what the other councils are doing. This is why I love campuses with Greek Offices that keep all the councils and campus community involved and informed about what every GLO is doing. That's how I was really able to know which IFC, NPC, and NPHC orgs truly WEREN'T doing anything (or were just doing a couple things a semester, which is lame) on or off campus.

Considering I know people from NPHC, Latino and Asian MCGLOs on campus, they don't do that much service. Nearly all of the events they have are ones where they show off their heritage.

Kind of derailing the topic, but MCGLO at my school have been on the decline, while IFC/NPC are on the rise. I don't know if this is a trend, but more students from different ethnicities are going towards IFC/NPC organizations. I know SLG and SLB are severely lacking new members and are down to mostly Juniors/Seniors with a very small minority of Sophomores/Freshmen.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

Considering I know people from NPHC, Latino and Asian MCGLOs on campus, they don't do that much service. Nearly all of the events they have are ones where they show off their heritage.

How can you be sure the members that you know are telling you everything on their respective calendars? Perhaps the people you know are the ones not doing any service activities?

Kind of derailing the topic, but MCGLO at my school have been on the decline, while IFC/NPC are on the rise. I don't know if this is a trend, but more students from different ethnicities are going towards IFC/NPC organizations. I know SLG and SLB are severely lacking new members and are down to mostly Juniors/Seniors with a very small minority of Sophomores/Freshmen.

FYI - Gammas and Betas are not multicultural.

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

How can you be sure the members that you know are telling you everything on their respective calendars? Perhaps the people you know are the ones not doing any service activities?



FYI - Gammas and Betas are not multicultural.

Gammas and Betas sit on our Multicultural Greek Council and are Latina/Latino oriented. How are they not multicultural?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

Gammas and Betas sit on our Multicultural Greek Council and are Latina/Latino oriented. How are they not multicultural?

Several of NALFO's organizations do sit on multicultural councils at the local level, but aren't multicultural organizations. SLB and SLG may have multicultural membership, but neither is multicultural in focus.

More here:
http://www.nalfo.org/members.htm
http://www.sigmalambdagamma.com/
http://www.sigmalambdabeta.com/

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Several of NALFO's organizations do sit on multicultural councils, but they aren't multicultural organizations. They may have multicultural membership, but neither in multicultural in focus.

More here:
http://www.nalfo.org/members.htm
http://www.sigmalambdagamma.com/
http://www.sigmalambdabeta.com/

Wow, I didn't know that. This is good to know, thanks.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

Considering I know people from NPHC, Latino and Asian MCGLOs on campus, they don't do that much service.

I knew people from NPC and IFC organizations but didn't know all the service they did unless it was specifically reported to us. I doubt you really know what you're talking about.

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I doubt you really know what you're talking about.

I trust my friend telling me, "Yeah we didn't do that much service because we didn't have any time" over someone on GreekChat.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

I trust my friend telling me

Oh, one person talking about one chapter/organization? Thanks for making sweeping claims about multiple organizations based on that. Or do you have a friend in every chapter who reports to you?

And what does "much service" mean in a quantitative sense? Did your friend hand over their service count?

Since you're volunteering.

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Oh, one person talking about one chapter/organization? Thanks for making sweeping claims about multiple organizations based on that. Or do you have a friend in every chapter who reports to you?

And what does "much service" mean in a quantitative sense? Did your friend hand over their service count?

Since you're volunteering.

I was asking a friend about service and what they've done compared to what my IFC org has done. On MY CAMPUS from what I HAVE SEEN, there is a lack of the orgs on the multicultural councils doing service. Did I say service was nonexistant? No. I'm saying that when it comes to it, ON MY CAMPUS, IFC/NPC tend to do more service. At a St. Judge letter writing drive, for example, I saw all of the IFC/NPC orgs and one of the orgs sitting on MCGC. When judicial board had a huge service week with prizes, the IFC/NPC orgs performed much better than the ones on the MCGC.

Did I say, every org on MCGC does no service? No. At my school, in what I have seen and what people tell me, IFC/NPC groups do more.

Unless you are on my campus and can refute this, you really don't have standing to make the claims you are making about me making generalizations.

[Little32]

That's the thing, most of our organizations have their own service initiatives to which our members devote a good deal of time, and often that service takes place off campus and in the community. Just because we are not as much a presence in these campus service events does not mean that we are not performing service. Many of our orgs have service initiatives that focus on the campus, but they are often organized and implemented by our organizations and not as an extension of institutional activities.

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by Little32

That's the thing, most of our organizations have their own service initiatives to which our members devote a good deal of time. Just because we are not as much a presence in these campus service events does not mean that we are not performing service.

Like I said, I'm not trying to downplay and say that these orgs don't do service. But from what I have seen at service events open to all GLOs that the ones on multicultural councils have a a really low turnout. Especially given the situation of these orgs on my campus facing member shortages, I would think they would want to get their name out there with all the good they do.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

I was asking a friend about service and what they've done compared to what my IFC org has done. On MY CAMPUS from what I HAVE SEEN, there is a lack of the orgs on the multicultural councils doing service. Did I say service was nonexistant? No. I'm saying that when it comes to it, ON MY CAMPUS, IFC/NPC tend to do more service. At a St. Judge letter writing drive, for example, I saw all of the IFC/NPC orgs and one of the orgs sitting on MCGC. When judicial board had a huge service week with prizes, the IFC/NPC orgs performed much better than the ones on the MCGC.

Did I say, every org on MCGC does no service? No. At my school, in what I have seen and what people tell me, IFC/NPC groups do more.

Unless you are on my campus and can refute this, you really don't have standing to make the claims you are making about me making generalizations.

You seem to keep missing the point. Just because they aren't participating in university-sponsored service events or events on campus doesn't mean that they're doing less than IFC/NPC organizations.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

I was asking a friend about service and what they've done compared to what my IFC org has done. On MY CAMPUS from what I HAVE SEEN, there is a lack of the orgs on the multicultural councils doing service. Did I say service was nonexistant? No. I'm saying that when it comes to it, ON MY CAMPUS, IFC/NPC tend to do more service. At a St. Judge letter writing drive, for example, I saw all of the IFC/NPC orgs and one of the orgs sitting on MCGC. When judicial board had a huge service week with prizes, the IFC/NPC orgs performed much better than the ones on the MCGC.

Did I say, every org on MCGC does no service? No. At my school, in what I have seen and what people tell me, IFC/NPC groups do more.

Unless you are on my campus and can refute this, you really don't have standing to make the claims you are making about me making generalizations.

Just know that certain statements can be loaded because your post was about all nonNPC/nonIFC organizations. We explained that some service events are less visible or off campus and you responded telling me about your "friends'" comments and the lack of MCGLOs at St. Judge and during service week. Whether you're accurate in your more general assertions/assumptions is something that you'll need to find out on your own. If you haven't done so already.