Kappa Beta Gamma/Kappa Delta

[AlwaysSAI]

This whole thread has got me thinking---

But, I wonder if an NPC org would have the same sort of actions towards an SAI chapter. The women of F&M were up front about disaffiliating and becoming KD-I'm referring more to the LUC situation.

I guess, I'm just wondering if KBGs size/strength had anything to do with it. SAI has 212 active college chapters and 120 active alumnae chapters. If an SAI chapter contacted NPC for expansion before disaffiliation was complete, I wonder how NPC/orgs that wanted to expand would go about dealing with it.

Disclaimer-*I'm not referring to any specific NPC org--it's just a hypothetical*

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by AlwaysSAI

This whole thread has got me thinking---

But, I wonder if an NPC org would have the same sort of actions towards an SAI chapter. The women of F&M were up front about disaffiliating and becoming KD-I'm referring more to the LUC situation.

I guess, I'm just wondering if KBGs size/strength had anything to do with it. SAI has 212 active college chapters and 120 active alumnae chapters. If an SAI chapter contacted NPC for expansion before disaffiliation was complete, I wonder how NPC/orgs that wanted to expand would go about dealing with it.

Disclaimer-*I'm not referring to any specific NPC org--it's just a hypothetical*

Hypothetically, there would probably not be a problem with an NPC absorbing an SAI chapter. I doubt anyone would since SAI is a completely different type organization, and I can't see a whole chapter of a service organization up and changing to a social organization no matter how much philanthropic work social sororities do. Those members could just join another NPC on campus and stay a part of SAI as well. All NPC does is make sure that the agreed upon rules are followed. After that, it's up to the member organization whether or not they want to persue colonization of that chapter.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Hypothetically, there would probably not be a problem with an NPC absorbing an SAI chapter. I doubt anyone would since SAI is a completely different type organization, and I can't see a whole chapter of a service organization up and changing to a social organization no matter how much philanthropic work social sororities do. Those members could just join another NPC on campus and stay a part of SAI as well. All NPC does is make sure that the agreed upon rules are followed. After that, it's up to the member organization whether or not they want to persue colonization of that chapter.

But if the majority of members in a group (say SAI) joins an NPC (while keeping their SAI membership) and is devoting more time to it, time they used to devote SAI, well, SAI is probably going to get screwed. I think that's why sometimes there are service or professional GLOs that look down on their members joining social GLOs - they've been burned in that way in the past and they don't want it to happen again.

Plus on some campuses, SAI is pretty much exactly like a social except they don't participate in Panhel rush. What would most likely happen is the women in a chapter like this would stay in SAI, it would just change from being more social to being more of a professional/resume thing.

And as you said in your earlier post, you're absolutely right - we and the other groups joined later and had to go by the rules already in place. That doesn't mean that I don't sometimes wonder if it was the right decision.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by 33girl

But if the majority of members in a group (say SAI) joins an NPC (while keeping their SAI membership) and is devoting more time to it, time they used to devote SAI, well, SAI is probably going to get screwed. I think that's why sometimes there are service or professional GLOs that look down on their members joining social GLOs - they've been burned in that way in the past and they don't want it to happen again.

Plus on some campuses, SAI is pretty much exactly like a social except they don't participate in Panhel rush. What would most likely happen is the women in a chapter like this would stay in SAI, it would just change from being more social to being more of a professional/resume thing.

And as you said in your earlier post, you're absolutely right - we and the other groups joined later and had to go by the rules already in place. That doesn't mean that I don't sometimes wonder if it was the right decision.

I completely see your point. I'm sure the people in charge at the time felt that they couldn't compete without having some protections from chapters already in the NPC. Unfortunately, there were many overlapping memberships. Do you know if any members chose to keep their AES chapter membership over their NPC? There are a lot of advantages to NPC membership, but their are also HUGE restrictions. Definitely not a perfect system, but letting everyone join as a full member of NPC, no matter how few chapters you have, would not be feasible. If member organizations feel strongly about it, however, they could vote not to colonize non-NPC sororities existing chapters. I bet they wont, though!

[33girl]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I completely see your point. I'm sure the people in charge at the time felt that they couldn't compete without having some protections from chapters already in the NPC. Unfortunately, there were many overlapping memberships. Do you know if any members chose to keep their AES chapter membership over their NPC?

I believe that you could choose to, but if you didn't do anything your "default" membership was with the original NPC.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I believe that you could choose to, but if you didn't do anything your "default" membership was with the original NPC.

I actually think it is stupid that they would have to choose between the two. Who is hurt by sisters keeping membership in both? They already know both the rituals so they'd be more likely to keep there secrets as alums of both than as ex-alums of one.