Kappa Beta Gamma/Kappa Delta

[LPIDelta]

Originally Posted by BootyKBG

NPC has in neither case given KBG the respect it gives its own sorority members in disaffiliation and affiliation with another organization.

NPC is not a "governing" organization per se--no one really decides what can and can't be done, so much as the member groups work together to establish "unanimous agreements." So it may be more accurate to reference NPC member groups rather than blame NPC in general.

[KSUViolet06]

Could the difficulties in communication between KBG and the NPCs involved be explained by the fact that there is little precedent for this kind of thing? NPCs typically absorb locals, so I don't think they were really sure how to go about dealing with expansion and another national.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Could the difficulties in communication between KBG and the NPCs involved be explained by the fact that there is little precedent for this kind of thing?

cough cough AES sororities cough cough. I'm sure there were some sort of standards set up back then when all that went down.

And as I've said before, non-NPCs have released chapters to NPC groups before. I know, mine did it, for reasons very similar to KBG's.

[BootyKBG]

Originally Posted by LPIDelta

NPC is not a "governing" organization per se--no one really decides what can and can't be done, so much as the member groups work together to establish "unanimous agreements." So it may be more accurate to reference NPC member groups rather than blame NPC in general.

I understand this, however, when expansion is opened up on a campus for one of our chapters and we are told there is nothing we can do about it, I find that extremely disrespectful. This is exactly what happened in the Loyola situation when we were contacted by NPC, and I am not sure we even were contacted with the F&M situation, but I may be wrong on that one as I am not the main contact.

[LPIDelta]

Maybe the answer is for your organization to approach NPC with your concerns? I honestly think that there is no clear understanding of what to do in these situations and if there is a continual dialogue between your organization and NPC then maybe that will alleviate some of the confusion.

I know that from an NPC perspective, I was once asked if I personally knew anyone in KBG to contact because there were issues with one of the chapters--keeping that website updated is certainly a key to building legitimacy and connections.

I do understand your perspective--but what about the women in the chapters? Shouldn't it be the goal of every sorority to ensure a positive experience for its members? I truly believe KBG tries to do everything that it can to ensure that their sisters do have a good experience but should an NPC member group turn away in the case where there is a strong group women who are seeking a different experience from what they currently have?

And what kind of programming is in place to ensure that KBG sisters are instilled with loyalty and fully understand what kind of experience they can expect as a sister and alum?

I don't know--just throwing some thoughts out there.

[BootyKBG]

Originally Posted by LPIDelta

Maybe the answer is for your organization to approach NPC with your concerns? I honestly think that there is no clear understanding of what to do in these situations and if there is a continual dialogue between your organization and NPC then maybe that will alleviate some of the confusion.

I know that from an NPC perspective, I was once asked if I personally knew anyone in KBG to contact because there were issues with one of the chapters--keeping that website updated is certainly a key to building legitimacy and connections.

I do understand your perspective--but what about the women in the chapters? Shouldn't it be the goal of every sorority to ensure a positive experience for its members? I truly believe KBG tries to do everything that it can to ensure that their sisters do have a good experience but should an NPC member group turn away in the case where there is a strong group women who are seeking a different experience from what they currently have?

And what kind of programming is in place to ensure that KBG sisters are instilled with loyalty and fully understand what kind of experience they can expect as a sister and alum?

I don't know--just throwing some thoughts out there.

You are correct, the lines of communication NEED to be opened. It was during such a conference call during the Loyola situation that we were basically told that because we were not NPC we couldn't really do anything about it. Later attempts at communication during that situation failed. If NPC is willing to re-open that communication, that would be wonderful.