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Old 05-13-2008, 05:13 PM
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The question was "What is American culture?" which leads to a highly opinionated answer. One's perception of American culture can be altered by geography, personal values and experiences, religious beliefs, race, etc.
And this, I believe is what Chaos was trying to get at. (She will correct me if I am wrong.) So what, then, is the "true" definition, and are we really going to hell in a handbasket?

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The "claims" are our opinions which don't need to be supported or backed by anything really.
That's not true; my students labor under this misperception all the time. You do have to provide support unless you want your opinions to be read as random rantings. If that is your goal, then have at it.
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Old 05-13-2008, 05:19 PM
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And this, I believe is what Chaos was trying to get at.
Oh, so she wanted wealthy white college student in the Deep South? Fine, there's her culture. If that's the background you need to understand 6 pages of solid arguments, then there you go. If you're just being obtuse under the pretense of trying to facilitate critical thinking, then I'm done.
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Old 05-13-2008, 05:32 PM
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Oh, so she wanted wealthy white college student in the Deep South?
If you claim that the above = American culture, then we were done before we started.
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Old 05-13-2008, 05:35 PM
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If you claim that the above = American culture, then we were done before we started.
That's not my claim at all, but that seems to be what you want. If it makes you feel like a winner then fine. You have all the information, now digest it.
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Old 05-13-2008, 05:21 PM
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And this, I believe is what Chaos was trying to get at. (She will correct me if I am wrong.) So what, then, is the "true" definition, and are we really going to hell in a handbasket?
Right. What is "culture" is less opinion-based but what is American culture can be very opinion-based. If you talk to some people, American culture is includes bigotry and the culture declined as soon as certain race, gender, and sexual orientation groups began having a voice.

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The point is, whenever I talk to people about forms of deviance, many will reference American culture and moral decay. If you ask them what "culture" means and specifically what "American culture" is, many stutter and struggle. They usually will say "founded on Christian values" or "Bible wielding" or "we work hard." It's usually an emotional response based on exposure rather than one based on an overall knowledge and understanding, which is perfectly fine as long as people are honest. And it's fine if people want to attach religion and hardwork as fundamental components of American cultures, although that will vary and isn't an exhaustive list.

But these same people don't stutter and struggle when it comes to expousing certain viewpoints on moral decay and race, gender, social class, and sexual orientation minority groups. Then if you ask them whether there are people of minority groups who are Bible wielding Christians who work hard, they often struggle to find another reason why "these people" are contributing to cultural decay. I always say have whatever viewpoints you have but don't feel threatened when someone asks questions. It's not personal, it's discourse. No one can steal your viewpoints from you but anyone can ask you to explain it. Whether you do so is your business but these are things to consider. It's a healthy exercise to make sure you aren't just pulling opinions out of your ass for everything.
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Old 05-13-2008, 05:21 PM
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Random rantings are the definition of an internet forum.
OK, but then don't get mad when your ideas are defined as such.

Your cohort is right, you were under no obligation to even attempt to respond to Chaos's question, but you did because you believed that what you have to say is true and should be defended; now you just have to work on the method of that defense.

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