Fraternity Rush at Kansas - Page 6

33girl · #1 07-06-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nate2512

Where quotas begin to come into play in the fraternal division, is when you have under-performing chapters at universities not really produce a very good Greek Life, the pressure mounts immensely for these group to get the unrealistic numbers their nationals has placed on them.

I didn't think dudes were dumb enough to do this. Or is it just certain national fraternities?

nate2512 · #2 07-06-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

I didn't think dudes were dumb enough to do this. Or is it just certain national fraternities?

i would imagine most have a similar system, its just not as pronounced to outsiders, but i cannot be sure.

LaneSig · #3 07-06-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

I didn't think dudes were dumb enough to do this. Or is it just certain national fraternities?

I know of one, maybe two, national fraternities that will set 'goals' for their chapters. They look at how many pledges the chapter has had over the last couple of years, the average pledge class of the groups on the campus, and then set a goal for their chapter.

Alpha Beta Fraternity

Alpha chapter at University of Whatever has had an average of 18 pledges for the past 5 fall rushes. The campus average for IFC rush at Whatever is 27. Your goal this year is 22 pledges.

Beta chapter at Whatever State University has only had an average of 9 pledges the past 5 fall rushes. The campus average for IFC rush is 22. Your goal this year is 14 pledges.

I don't know if there is any punishment for not reaching their goal. The one fraternity that I know set goals had the goal and the number of pledges on their website, but it is not there now.

Tom Earp · #4 07-07-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sarahsmilehawk

Well I talked to a fraternity guy at KU who said his house had a quota. The way he described it, it sounded like the quota only applied to that specific house and the other houses had different quotas. So maybe you're kinda right.

It's not like sororities necessarily love quota either... I'd rather take a smaller group than bid a bunch of people who don't fit in for whatever reason and will likely drop anyway.

Maybe you said it all, one Fraternity at the KU Campus and not all!

I guess it would depend on which Fraternity you are refering to and how close they are!

If they are a Jewish Fraternity that may be true. But knowing a bit about KU recruitment, over all you are incorrect!

KU has a strong Greek Community with big houses and memberships for most!

But of course in The Major Houses membership counts!

OOPS they have to pay the bills!

nate2512 · #5 07-07-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Maybe you said it all, one Fraternity at the KU Campus and not all!

I guess it would depend on which Fraternity you are refering to and how close they are!

If they are a Jewish Fraternity that may be true. But knowing a bit about KU recruitment, over all you are incorrect!

KU has a strong Greek Community with big houses and memberships for most!

But of course in The Major Houses membership counts!

OOPS they have to pay the bills!

What the hell tom?

sarahsmilehawk · #6 07-08-2008, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Maybe you said it all, one Fraternity at the KU Campus and not all!

I guess it would depend on which Fraternity you are refering to and how close they are!

If they are a Jewish Fraternity that may be true. But knowing a bit about KU recruitment, over all you are incorrect!

KU has a strong Greek Community with big houses and memberships for most!

But of course in The Major Houses membership counts!

OOPS they have to pay the bills!

Actually, the member I spoke to was from Lambda Chi Alpha.

About Sigma Nu: They have only been off campus for four years, and they did exist in some form or another the whole time. They have moved back into their chapter house, which is very nice (despite being haunted). They already have a greater presence on campus than several other fraternities (Phi Taus and TKEs seem to be MIA around here).

PhiGam · #7 07-08-2008, 09:09 AM

To summarize the thread: Rush Sigma Nu, they are AWESOME at Kansas.

banditone · #8 07-08-2008, 09:57 AM

Come on PhiGam. No one said that. It's a re-colonization; just saying they shouldn't take the usual 5-10 years to get out of the dumpster.

PhiGam · #9 07-08-2008, 12:38 PM

Obeying underage drinking laws= Phrat

Kevin · #10 07-08-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam

Obeying underage drinking laws= Phrat

Creating an account on an internet message board to make fun of a start up colony who is doing what national requires it to do in order to get a charter = Phrattier.

nate2512 · #11 07-08-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

Creating an account on an internet message board to make fun of a start up colony who is doing what national requires it to do in order to get a charter = Phrattier.

Creating a name on a message board to glorify a colony into something that its not, and recruiting for said colony on greek chat = phrattiest.

Kevin · #12 07-12-2008, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by nate2512

Creating a name on a message board to glorify a colony into something that its not, and recruiting for said colony on greek chat = phrattiest.

Not that it matters, but Kedz is not affiliated with the KU chapter as far as I know. He was, however, very influential in the rechartering of his own chapter, and was recently recognized nationally for it. If anyone has earned the right to speak about what sort of opportunities a recolonization offers, it's him.

CrackerBarrel · #13 07-08-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

Creating an account on an internet message board to make fun of a start up colony who is doing what national requires it to do in order to get a charter = Phrattier.

Colonies deserve to get made fun of sometimes because the only time they don't suck is when the house was top tier, off campus for only a few years and was underground/under a different name for the whole time. And that sometimes when they deserve to get made fun of is when people somehow associated with them act like the colony is no different than a top-tier house.

Colonies are never top tier, that's a perfectly reasonable assumption. And doing what no other chapter in the country does and actually obeying drinking laws isn't going to make them cooler any time soon. So it seems like a perfectly reasonable statement on his part.

I understand that there are a lot of Sigma Nu's here, but stop trying to recruit for a colony by denying the obvious. It makes the whole organization seem desperate when you do, when really its only one colony which needs numbers who is despearate.

nittanyalum · #14 07-08-2008, 05:37 PM

And why, exactly, do you all care so much? You're all securely there in your "top tiers", right? Then just stay up on your high horses and let these other groups go about their business. There's a way to be "elite" without being judgmental jerks, you'll grow as men when you figure out how to do it.

nate2512 · #15 07-08-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum

And why, exactly, do you all care so much? You're all securely there in your "top tiers", right? Then just stay up on your high horses and let these other groups go about their business. There's a way to be "elite" without being judgmental jerks, you'll grow as men when you figure out how to do it.

everyone was minding their own business until the sig nu guy came in here touting this colony as the best chapter in the nation