Kappa Beta Gamma/Kappa Delta

33girl · #1 05-08-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by lucgreek

as a greek at luc not involved in the whole KBG/KKG switch, I can tell you what I've heard:

luc KBG girls were very dissatisified with nationals and had expressed that to them. nationals really didn't act on it or take them seriously so the girls felt left out and wanted to be part of a group that would pay attention to them.

the girls went looking for a new association and i think around 8-9 sororities visited campus and met the girls and the girls ultimately decided to affiliate with KKG. luc greek life accepted this because nearly all of the girls voted to dissassociate themselves and all pledged to KKG. girls that did not want the switch simply did not join KKG and KBG was barred from recruiting new members by luc greek life.

sororities at luc are all huge (i think all are at least 60+ members each), so this is a place where you want to make sure your chapter has good relations with nationals.

The chapter was not released by KBG national. The girls did not "disassociate" - what they did made the chapter disappear. If they didn't want to be in KBG, they could have terminated themselves from KBG and started an interest group for a new NPC sorority. The problem is that would have taken time, getting recognized, etc, and apparently "don't care how, I want it now!!" You say that there are girls who didn't want the switch - why couldn't they have kept the KBG chapter alive? It sounds like the girls who went to KKG shit talked KBG to LUC's Panhel and LUC in general, because if LUC had such an issue with KBG not being NPC they would have done something about it before this.

There's a GC poster whose mom was a KBG alumna from LUC and apparently the alums had NO idea any of this was happening. I'm sorry, but that is absolutely inexcusable.

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Originally Posted by ta kala

They, for many years, have been disatisfied with KBG (that is not to put KBG down, I am sure they have chapters who are extrememly proud to be KBG).

Many years??? The KBG chapter has only been there since 2002. It's not like they had been complaining about them since the 60s or something.

As a member of one of the "1951 joiners" - I'm a little sensitive to stuff like NPC not following through on promises they make or being disrespectful to smaller groups.

Senusret I · #2 05-08-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

The chapter was not released by KBG national. The girls did not "disassociate" - what they did made the chapter disappear. If they didn't want to be in KBG, they could have terminated themselves from KBG and started an interest group for a new NPC sorority. The problem is that would have taken time, getting recognized, etc, and apparently "don't care how, I want it now!!" You say that there are girls who didn't want the switch - why couldn't they have kept the KBG chapter alive? It sounds like the girls who went to KKG shit talked KBG to LUC's Panhel and LUC in general, because if LUC had such an issue with KBG not being NPC they would have done something about it before this.

There's a GC poster whose mom was a KBG alumna from LUC and apparently the alums had NO idea any of this was happening. I'm sorry, but that is absolutely inexcusable.

Many years??? The KBG chapter has only been there since 2002. It's not like they had been complaining about them since the 60s or something.

As a member of one of the "1951 joiners" - I'm a little sensitive to stuff like NPC not following through on promises they make or being disrespectful to smaller groups.

The whole thing stinks to me.

NutBrnHair · #3 05-08-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

As a member of one of the "1951 joiners" - I'm a little sensitive to stuff like NPC not following through on promises they make or being disrespectful to smaller groups.

I have never heard that term. (Hmmm...learn something new everyday.)

33girl · #4 05-08-2008, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

I have never heard that term. (Hmmm...learn something new everyday.)

Actually, I probably should correct that - not so much a 1951 joiner thing, more an AES thing. NPC said they would stay out of the schools of education to keep things clear for the AES groups and surprise surprise, they went into them anyway.

The other groups that joined in 1951, well, I don't think they could very well say "doggone it, why did you have to remove your exclusionary policies!"

chitownxo · #5 05-08-2008, 12:52 PM

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There's a GC poster whose mom was a KBG alumna from LUC and apparently the alums had NO idea any of this was happening. I'm sorry, but that is absolutely inexcusable.

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I'm the poster...some of the LUC alums STILL do not know about the change. My mom had lunch with a couple of her pledge sisters a month or so ago, and they were shocked this happened...especially since the LUC KBG girls were still soliciting donations from their alumni the summer before the switch.

breathesgelatin · #6 05-08-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chitownxo

I'm the poster...some of the LUC alums STILL do not know about the change. My mom had lunch with a couple of her pledge sisters a month or so ago, and they were shocked this happened...especially since the LUC KBG girls were still soliciting donations from their alumni the summer before the switch.

OOF.... How old was the LUC KBG chapter?

chitownxo · #7 05-08-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by breathesgelatin

OOF.... How old was the LUC KBG chapter?

Over 50 years -- my mom pledged back in 1960.

SoCalGirl · #8 05-08-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kddani

Read her post closer and read the entire thread. KD is colonizing at F&M, not LUC. The poster is referring to another chapter of KBG that decided to change to an NPC sorority and chose KKG. Read the thread, its mentioned several times.

My appologies. I over looked the few sentances that clearly mentioned KKG.

33girl · #9 01-28-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chitownxo

...some of the LUC alums STILL do not know about the change. My mom had lunch with a couple of her pledge sisters a month or so ago, and they were shocked this happened...especially since the LUC KBG girls were still soliciting donations from their alumni the summer before the switch.

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kappadivstar · #10 01-28-2009, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

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I'd LOVE to see some proof of this. Please, since you're clearly in the middle of the situation and know EVERYTHING, send me the letter I sent asking for money from the alums we couldn't get ahold of.

MysticCat · #11 01-29-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kappadivstar

I'd LOVE to see some proof of this. Please, since you're clearly in the middle of the situation and know EVERYTHING, send me the letter I sent asking for money from the alums we couldn't get ahold of.

Why would you expect 33girl to provide you with proof of something that someone else said? All 33girl did was quote what chitownxo said.

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Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

If it's true that some alumnae still didn't know about the change a month ago, then that just proves my point...they haven't even taken ten seconds to look at the chapter or Panhellenic websites in over a year? My heart is not bleeding for that kind of alum.

chitownxo's post where she said her mom "had lunch with a couple of her pledge sisters a month or so ago" is from May 2008. She also said that those alums had gotten "give us money" letters from the chapter months the summer before the change.

IowaMullet · #12 01-29-2009, 01:17 PM

Wow, 13 pages of drivel. Why do you care so much, when it really doesn't involve you?

LucyAnne17 · #13 01-29-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat

Why would you expect 33girl to provide you with proof of something that someone else said? All 33girl did was quote what chitownxo said.
chitownxo's post where she said her mom "had lunch with a couple of her pledge sisters a month or so ago" is from May 2008. She also said that those alums had gotten "give us money" letters from the chapter months the summer before the change.

I saw this as an open question.

And, I mean, 33girl seems to have positioned herself as an authority on the matter.

Not that I really have an opinion either way on this.

33girl · #14 01-29-2009, 11:04 PM

I never said I was an authority on anything. If you go back, most of my posts are clarified with "it sounds to me" or "it seems" or "I think". I'm offering an OPINION. If you have a different one, fine.

And I apparently missed the part of Greek Chat where you can only comment on things that happen to your GLO, your chapter, or your school. If I've commented a lot, it's because I'm more disturbed by the situation (or I guess I have to say alleged situation) than some others that are being discussed on here.

kbgkm · #15 08-20-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

There's a GC poster whose mom was a KBG alumna from LUC and apparently the alums had NO idea any of this was happening. I'm sorry, but that is absolutely inexcusable.

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I'm the poster...some of the LUC alums STILL do not know about the change. My mom had lunch with a couple of her pledge sisters a month or so ago, and they were shocked this happened...especially since the LUC KBG girls were still soliciting donations from their alumni the summer before the switch.

I'm a member of KBG at Frostburg State. We would love to meet some other KBG alum. If your mom and any of her sisters would like to come to Frostburg, we'd love to meet them!