Hazed: A greek tragedy at Northwestern-Lambda Phi Epsilon

[SoCalGirl]

Originally Posted by pReciouSdRaguN

Not that Im trying to get involved in this debate of sorts, but I just have to say.. just because a whole pledge class decides to DP doesnt mean the organization itself is doing a bad job or anything. It could've happened to anyone. It just s0o happens that they felt Lambdas wasnt for them.

And secondly, we shouldnt compare one chapter's pledging style with another because pledging styles and traditions do vary depending on the school and location, although they may have some similarities. I feel that it's a little unfair to base one chapter's actions against their national organization. I mean, you can be biased towards that chapter, but not nationally. Ok, that's all. Thanks for reading

Seriously???? If your entire pledge class drops you're doing all sorts of wrong things. Be it picking the wrong people or hazing the hell out of them or something in between. Don't blame the pledges for the chapter's problem.

[pReciouSdRaguN]

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

Seriously???? If your entire pledge class drops you're doing all sorts of wrong things. Be it picking the wrong people or hazing the hell out of them or something in between. Don't blame the pledges for the chapter's problem.

Im not saying that it's solely the pledges' problem if they dont cross, but it's also not solely the chapter's either. Sometimes they [the pledges] feel the organization is just not right for them or they cant hack it.. sometimes it's the organization's fault for their methods of teaching. There are times when organizations dont cross a class; it's unfortunately, but it happens. Im just saying there are many perspectives to see this from, not just one.

But then again, I dont go to Northwestern and I didnt pledge Lambdas there, s0o I wouldnt really know if there really would be someone to blame.. not like I was pointing a finger to begin with.

[Kevin]

I don't think anyone is ready to conclude guilt.

Back in my active days, I had a little something to do with getting a pledge kicked out. I was, of course, accused by both this kid (and his mother) of hazing, which was a lie. In fact, they went so far as to try to seek redress through the University and through our Headquarters. Fortunately for me, no one found them credible enough to even take it to the next step.

All we know is this: An entire pledge class dropped.

As to why, consider this clip from the story:

Four of the pledges, who were granted anonymity because they feared retribution from active Lambdas, had slightly differing accounts of DTYD and other pledge events. (Some of them attempted to retract their tape-recorded statements in similarly worded e-mails sent earlier this week, denying they ever pledged the fraternity.) All accounts in this story were reconstructed from coinciding details.

Often when pledges drop out or are asked to leave, they will want to take revenge. There are other possible explanations here.