Schools with most inactive NPC chapters

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by kddani

Foundations deal with managing the charitable aspect of the sorority - its donations to various causes, etc. Not with the every day deals of where to colonize and where not to.

I'm guessing that NPC organizations do things a bit differently here... but I don't see how that has to necessarily be the case across the board. There are ways to use foundation money to help fund non 501(c)(3) qualified expenses such as housing.

For example, a 501(c)(3) foundation can write the local/national house corporation a mortgage on a property (at an interest rate around that which would have been found in an arm's length transaction). The foundation can actually 100% fund some aspects of a chapter's facility. To state across the board, unless this is an NPC thing, that the foundations only deal with managing the charitable aspects of their organizations is not 100% accurate. Again, that might be an NPC thing, which I have no clue about, but I can't imagine the umbrella organization would govern what their constituents' foundations could do.

I could plausibly see a foundation playing a big role in expansion. Especially if they're working with some sort of national house corporation.

[UGAalum94]

Oldu,

I'd be interested in seeing the stats for more schools. Right now, your sample may not be representative, and it would be interesting to be able to tell if some NPC groups are better able to gage their likelihood of success when they expand to new campuses and/or are able to provide better assistance to their chapters to make sure they don't close.

If you are willing, maybe you could choose an expanded list of schools with a geographic and demographic mix that would be an accurate sample for the nation (and the relative number of chapters that each NPC has/has ever had). I suggest this seriously since you do seem to enjoy research and list making.

And then, we could revisit the results to look for the organizations that really have a strength in this area.

[AGDee]

The mistake is in assuming that just because you have a dormant chapter there, you don't want to be there. That couldn't be further from the truth for several of our closed chapters on that list where we still own a house but have to wait until recruitment numbers are up and wait our turn to recolonize. NPCs are very different from fraternities in that way because we won't go back until the environment is ready for it. A good example is Michigan State. Alpha Xi Delta has been given first option to recolonize WHEN numbers warrant it. We are next after them. However, until there are enough women wanting to go greek on that campus to support more sororities, it won't happen.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I could plausibly see a foundation playing a big role in expansion. Especially if they're working with some sort of national house corporation.

Well, some groups have or had someone who is not a member as the director or employed in some other way with their foundation. For a while, ours was an AXO. She most assuredly did NOT have any say in where we expanded or what our expansion philosophy was/is. I'm sure she gave the expansion committee updates on the state of the foundation, but that's like my company's BOD calling the bank and asking what the prime rate is or something. It doesn't mean the bank is giving opinion on our buyouts/mergers/etc.

Long way of saying I think that's what Dani was talking about.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Well, some groups have or had someone who is not a member as the director or employed in some other way with their foundation. For a while, ours was an AXO. She most assuredly did NOT have any say in where we expanded or what our expansion philosophy was/is. I'm sure she gave the expansion committee updates on the state of the foundation, but that's like my company's BOD calling the bank and asking what the prime rate is or something. It doesn't mean the bank is giving opinion on our buyouts/mergers/etc.

Long way of saying I think that's what Dani was talking about.

Like I said, it's plausible, but everyone is entitled to govern themselves as they see fit. I never would claim to know a single thing about how NPCs self-govern.

[NutBrnHair]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Well, some groups have or had someone who is not a member as the director or employed in some other way with their foundation.

A very small percentage.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

A very small percentage.

Maybe that can be the next thing to do statistics on.

Seriously, just because Chi Omega doesn't do it doesn't mean it doesn't occur on the earth. I was simply trying to explain to Kevin what Dani said - the foundation director does not always have a hand in expansion. Just because oldu's mythical and not-too-discreet friend gave her opinion on why her sorority turned down this or that campus, doesn't mean that she had jack shit to do with it or any say in it.

[NutBrnHair]

Dani certainly must not be thinking of her own KD either since the Foundation Director and the Sorority Executive Director are the same person.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

Dani certainly must not be thinking of her own KD either since the Foundation Director and the Sorority Executive Director are the same person.

WHO ALSO MIGHT NOT HAVE A DAMN THING TO DO WITH EXPANSION.

Honestly, why don't you let oldu come here and back up his own claim instead of speaking for him?

[NutBrnHair]

This is an unfair debate. I'll gracefully step aside and let you control the discussion from here on.

[kddani]

Originally Posted by 33girl

WHO ALSO MIGHT NOT HAVE A DAMN THING TO DO WITH EXPANSION.

Honestly, why don't you let oldu come here and back up his own claim instead of speaking for him?

Because that would involving signing out then signing back in under a different screen name Yep, I said it.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Honestly, why don't you let oldu come here and back up his own claim instead of speaking for him?

Perhaps "he" was...

ETA: Oo, KDdani beat me to it!!