Hazed: A greek tragedy at Northwestern-Lambda Phi Epsilon

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

That's disgusting. What purpose does this serve? And, are there not other less ridiculous ways to demonstrate to the pledges that they have to have each others' backs? I wouldn't go so far as to say that they need to be removed from campus, but they do need to have a fraternity rep oversee what they're doing to keep things within reason.

ETA: Lambda Phi Epsilon really needs to work on oversight in general. If I'm not mistaken, each chapter is essentially a local organiation with its own rules and such. If their pledges keep dying, they won't be around much longer to fix the problem.

I agree-in fact there is a link showing that this already has happened two years ago at another chapter in a Southern school.

[nwu43]

Originally Posted by jon1856

I agree-in fact there is a link showing that this already has happened two years ago at another chapter in a Southern school.

Oy, I knew it would be a matter of time before this was brought up here.
Look I'm not even gonna bother because you guys seem to have bought into everything this guy has written in his sensational article.

But if you want to see this thing from our side of it as well, look for our statement in response (it will be published on Monday). Also FYI, we're not alone here trying to defend ourselves, as MGC and NPHC chapters here have also got our back and supports us.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by nwu43

Oy, I knew it would be a matter of time before this was brought up here.
Look I'm not even gonna bother because you guys seem to have bought into everything this guy has written in his sensational article.

But if you want to see this thing from our side of it as well, look for our statement in response (it will be published on Monday). Also FYI, we're not alone here trying to defend ourselves, as MGC and NPHC chapters here have also got our back and supports us.

Well, it is Monday.
Where is that statement?

[nwu43]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Well, it is Monday.
Where is that statement?

Sorry, we've decided over the weekend to get it to print later. We all know that the earlier that people can see our side to it, the better, but we now have a good reason not to rush this thing.

It will hopefully be out on Thursday (won't jump the gun and say "will" this time), after we've ensured that our response will not get edited and censored.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by nwu43

Sorry, we've decided over the weekend to get it to print later. We all know that the earlier that people can see our side to it, the better, but we now have a good reason not to rush this thing.

It will hopefully be out on Thursday (won't jump the gun and say "will" this time), after we've ensured that our response will not get edited and censored.

Could you please explain your last line???

[starang21]

Originally Posted by nwu43

Oy, I knew it would be a matter of time before this was brought up here.
Look I'm not even gonna bother because you guys seem to have bought into everything this guy has written in his sensational article.

But if you want to see this thing from our side of it as well, look for our statement in response (it will be published on Monday). Also FYI, we're not alone here trying to defend ourselves, as MGC and NPHC chapters here have also got our back and supports us.

dude is your name really hooters? seriously?




LOLOL

[ASTalumna06]

I just received this email today from AST National Staff about the newly-initiated Lambda Phi Epsilon who died at The University of Texas...


As part of our commitment to Hazing Prevention, we are proud to announce the creation of the Hazing Prevention portion of our website. This story, along with many others, will be profiled on the site.

We now invite you to meet Jack. We hope you learn what he was unable to - A pattern of heavy drinking in alcohol initiations can and will kill you.

Who is Jack?
Phanta Jack Phuommarath entered the University of Texas at Austin in 2005 as a pre-Computer Science major. Just like every college freshman, he created his Facebook profile, met new friends and decided like each one of us, to join a fraternity/sorority. Unfortunately, Jack's life was cut short on December 10, 2005 - eight hours after his fraternity's initiation.

What happened?
Jack was required, with the rest of his new member class, to drink alcohol provided to them by the active members at initiation. Jack became incapacitated as the result of the consumng alcohol and left alone, unattended. Jack died that night.

It was found that the drinking was only a portion of what Jack and his fellow new members had to endure. Jack had shaved his head as part of the initiation and also reportedly had markings that apparently were drawn on him at the fraternity after he passed out at the party.

His Legacy
Jack's family have taken proceeds from the settlement of their cases and have created an endowment in honor of their son to promote alcohol awareness and to educate other students about the dangers of hazing and binge drinking. The family also developed a professionally produced video regarding the dangers of hazing and binge drinking. His family hopes their efforts will make a difference and prevent others from losing a child in such a senseless tragedy.

Watch the Videos
The message is clear. Jack Phoummarath was an incredible young man, who unfortunately, trusted men he was supposed to call his "brothers", and it cost him his life.

The Pledge http://www.stophazing.org/nuwer/july08column.htm (see bottom of webpage)
Jack's Website http://www.inmemoryofjack.com/
StopHazing.org

[Kevin]

Is the article true? If so, then it's sort of hard to defend you. You broke campus policy and probably the law. Read through a few articles on here. Kids go to jail for much less than what is alleged in these complaints.

As far as the "outrage," if you read the article, you'll note that the "emasculation" comment was a quotation from a professor of Asian-American studies. You can't blame Jackson, he was just out to get some answers.

[nwu43]

Originally Posted by Kevin

As far as the "outrage," if you read the article, you'll note that the "emasculation" comment was a quotation from a professor of Asian-American studies. You can't blame Jackson, he was just out to get some answers.

A quote from the article: "He says some of the Lambdas he knows feel "emasculated" because they're Asian"

The professor later told us that he never said that. And he mentioned that many of the other things he was quoted to say were completely taken out of context.

[Kevin]

Well, if PJ is worth a crap, he taped the interview so he wouldn't misquote. The quote sounds pretty ignorant anyhow. Groups don't haze because they feel emasculated, they do so because it's effective at team building.

That said, I guess you're not taking issue with the hazing accusations?

[nwu43]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Well, if PJ is worth a crap, he taped the interview so he wouldn't misquote. The quote sounds pretty ignorant anyhow. Groups don't haze because they feel emasculated, they do so because it's effective at team building.

That said, I guess you're not taking issue with the hazing accusations?

Of course we do. But I have to be extremely careful about that, which is why I don't want to write about it just yet because anyone can take my words out of context as well and twist them around. (you've already gotten my PM right?)

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by nwu43

Of course we do. But I have to be extremely careful about that, which is why I don't want to write about it just yet because anyone can take my words out of context as well and twist them around. (you've already gotten my PM right?)

Actually, no. I never got a PM from you.

[nwu43]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Actually, no. I never got a PM from you.

Ugh.. that's strange. I'll write you again later (it took me awhile to write that PM reply). Thanks for at least keeping an open mind though and not immediately jumping to conclusions.