Hazed: A greek tragedy at Northwestern-Lambda Phi Epsilon

[APOBee7519]

I know that being a member of Alpha Phi Omega they have strict standards of how they pledge people, but to know that Northwestern a prestige school would allow frats and sorrorities to haze people. I can understand little things like harmless jokes, but when they get you to binge drink until you pass out is crossing the line. It was past generations of fraternity and sorrority members that passed on their ignorant and harmful tactics to get freshman to pledge. It's bad that schools don't shut down the chapters and report them to the organizations national headquarters. What makes no sense is that you should be able to pledge without the dangerous pranks and binge drinking. I was given honorary status with the frat/sorrority organization I was with to progress into full membership with all the rights and privileges.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by APOBee7519

I was given honorary status with the frat/sorrority organization I was with to progress into full membership with all the rights and privileges.

No, you weren't. (But then again, if you are referring to APO as a "frat/sorrority" that's another problem right there.)

[PhiGam]

I scanned the article... did a kid die or did the entire pledge class just pussy out and rat out the older brothers?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I scanned the article... did a kid die or did the entire pledge class just pussy out and rat out the older brothers?

Door #2.

[Senusret I]

nwu43, stop talking. You don't owe us anything. This is a matter for your national organization to handle -- it's bigger than you. Trust me on this.

(And I still owe you a reply to a PM from March - sorry!)

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

nwu43, stop talking. You don't owe us anything. This is a matter for your national organization to handle -- it's bigger than you. Trust me on this.

The best post in this thread.

[nwu43]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

nwu43, stop talking. You don't owe us anything. This is a matter for your national organization to handle -- it's bigger than you. Trust me on this.

(And I still owe you a reply to a PM from March - sorry!)

Thanks Senusret I.

I've been trying to be as careful as I could with what I say, but you're right (I was afraid not saying anything would make us look even worse).

[aggieAXO]

Personally having ALL of your pledges drop out makes you look pretty bad to me. I admit I am a little biased after hearing about the death of one of your pledges here in Austin 3 years ago.

[pReciouSdRaguN]

Originally Posted by aggieAXO

Personally having ALL of your pledges drop out makes you look pretty bad to me. I admit I am a little biased after hearing about the death of one of your pledges here in Austin 3 years ago.

Not that Im trying to get involved in this debate of sorts, but I just have to say.. just because a whole pledge class decides to DP doesnt mean the organization itself is doing a bad job or anything. It could've happened to anyone. It just s0o happens that they felt Lambdas wasnt for them.

And secondly, we shouldnt compare one chapter's pledging style with another because pledging styles and traditions do vary depending on the school and location, although they may have some similarities. I feel that it's a little unfair to base one chapter's actions against their national organization. I mean, you can be biased towards that chapter, but not nationally. Ok, that's all. Thanks for reading

[SoCalGirl]

Originally Posted by pReciouSdRaguN

Not that Im trying to get involved in this debate of sorts, but I just have to say.. just because a whole pledge class decides to DP doesnt mean the organization itself is doing a bad job or anything. It could've happened to anyone. It just s0o happens that they felt Lambdas wasnt for them.

And secondly, we shouldnt compare one chapter's pledging style with another because pledging styles and traditions do vary depending on the school and location, although they may have some similarities. I feel that it's a little unfair to base one chapter's actions against their national organization. I mean, you can be biased towards that chapter, but not nationally. Ok, that's all. Thanks for reading

Seriously???? If your entire pledge class drops you're doing all sorts of wrong things. Be it picking the wrong people or hazing the hell out of them or something in between. Don't blame the pledges for the chapter's problem.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by nwu43

(I was afraid not saying anything would make us look even worse).

No, not saying anything means that the GC Court of Opinion is unimportant.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

nwu43, stop talking. You don't owe us anything. This is a matter for your national organization to handle -- it's bigger than you. Trust me on this.

(And I still owe you a reply to a PM from March - sorry!)

BON I was thinking along these lines as well.
I truly thought that he was going to add to prior posting something along the lines of "under the advise of attorney" rather than what he did write in post.

[Educatingblue]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

nwu43, stop talking. You don't owe us anything. This is a matter for your national organization to handle -- it's bigger than you. Trust me on this.

(And I still owe you a reply to a PM from March - sorry!)

I was going to PM him this...I think coming on GC and trying to defend your org is one of the biggest mistakes younger orgs make. As hard as it may be, you have to read and ignore.

[Kevin]

I agree.

Younger organizations would do well to understand when it's time to circle the wagons and when it's time to speak.

That said, anything anyone needs deleted regarding this (that is false), PM me.

I'm thinking about locking this thread, but I'm not there yet.

[PhiGam]

I really don't see what the big deal is. Nobody died or got hurt. Of course hazing is wrong but this is not newsworthy IMO.