Rush at UofA

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Do these sorts of scenarios happen often with the "pre-recruiting/dirty rushing" going on?

Every year.
Daughter is now graduated, but she knew several local girls who were bombarded with notes and invitations to parties both their junior and senior years...invitations to stay at the sorority house and go to the fraternity parties...and many of them did go.
Her own group's alumnae hosted summer teas in Mobile and Birmingham, and they continued to send small gifts to top choices, even through recruitment. E-mails to members (she told me; I never looked myself) always admonished members "don't tell ANYBODY" because of Panhellenic sanctions.
If you're going to have a chapter at Alabama, you dirty rush or you die. It's just the way it is and always has been.

Originally Posted by baci

I really wonder how any PNM at that age or even a freshman in college really know what it truly entails to be part of a sorority.

Of course they don't know! They might have a clue from an older sister or friend. Some of them think they know because they've been in a high school sorority. Somebody who thinks she knows where she's going could be right...but often she's wrong. It's one of the things I like so much about the new recruitment method where the bigger chapters are forced to drop more PNMs earlier. They then have to take another look at the smaller groups if they want a sorority. Unfortunately, many believe "it's XYZ or nothing" and they just drop out (see Ole Miss!). And that's why I wonder if UA would truly support another 2 groups.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

If you're going to have a chapter at Alabama, you dirty rush or you die. It's just the way it is and always has been.

And yet that system seems to be held up in such high regard as a "great" and "strong" greek system. What are we teaching the kids in those systems about how to operate in their adult lives? Do whatever you have to do to get what you want, no matter how backhanded? And you can't tell me the national offices aren't fully aware of what's going on down there. Fish always stink from the head, as my grandfather always said.

[KSUViolet06]

How often does it happen that a girl who is heavily dirty rushed and invited to events as a HS junior end up getting let down by the sorority who was "recruiting" her? Like my above example of XYZ dropping the girl they've been saying they wanted since she was a junior? Or XYZ "getting over" the PNM by the time she gets to college (for any number of reasons)?

[baci]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

How often does it happen that a girl who is heavily dirty rushed and invited to events as a HS junior end up getting let down by the sorority who was "recruiting" her? Like my above example of XYZ dropping the girl they've been saying they wanted since she was a junior? Or XYZ "getting over" the PNM by the time she gets to college (for any number of reasons)?

If I had to guess, there is a larger percentage that she will not make it into that house. If a group dirty rushes, they probably do so with numerous girls and make countless promises. We all know that they can't take them all. They are offering a dream or a faint promise to a young girl. (who knows, these days maybe these PNM's are smarter than we think)

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

And yet that system seems to be held up in such high regard as a "great" and "strong" greek system. What are we teaching the kids in those systems about how to operate in their adult lives? Do whatever you have to do to get what you want, no matter how backhanded? And you can't tell me the national offices aren't fully aware of what's going on down there. Fish always stink from the head, as my grandfather always said.

Are you serious?

I was going to ask about your chromosome count, but I decided to take the high road.

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

How often does it happen that a girl who is heavily dirty rushed and invited to events as a HS junior end up getting let down by the sorority who was "recruiting" her?

Frequently...

Originally Posted by baci

I really wonder what percentage of the these young girls will truly help their org once they graduate?

It's been my experience that about 5% of all members will participate as alumnae, no matter what their collegiate experience was.

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Are you serious?I was going to ask about your chromosome count, but I decided to take the high road.

You've changed your ways, eh?