Gays in fraternites (pt. 2)

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by jon1856

But some of what you just posted cross over each other.

No.

[alum]

^^^^Dennis Hastert, Mark Foley....

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by alum

^^^^Dennis Hastert, Mark Foley....

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[breathesgelatin]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

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Mark Foley = gay Republican congressman from Florida who was (barely) closeted. Lived with a partner and was unmarried, just didn't discuss or publicizie his sexual orientation. Was molested as a child and sent inappropriate emails and IMs to male high school pages. Was outed, resigned his seat in Congress, and entered rehab for alcohol abuse.

Dennis Hastert = former Republican speaker of the house. Criticized for his handling of the Foley scandal (supposedly saw the inappropriate emails/IMs and didn't do anything about it until they were leaked to the press). Led to his eventual resignation. There is a lot of speculation regarding whether or not he is gay. I didn't know that myself until alum posted it. I tried to find some unbiased websites that discuss it but couldn't. He is married with adult children but lives in Washington with his unmarried male chief of staff (or at least he did before he resigned). Evidently when his wife comes to visit she stays in a hotel. I have no idea if these are accurate b/c they're mostly from liberal blogs, but here are the links I found:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lawren...r_b_31171.html
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/10/flaggots.html
http://boyculture.typepad.com/boy_cu...stert_gay.html

[macallan25]

I know what hubris means. I haven't read any posts in this thread that are meant to shame and humiliate the OP.

I didn't use the Bible for my reasonings at all. If you'll go back and read the post where I referenced it, you'll see the context in which it was used. The OP made a statement basically saying that if guys are truly Christians, then it shouldn't matter what sexuality someone is because Jesus taught us to be accepting of everybody. I simply stated that the Bible considers homosexual behavior a sin. I never once said that I wouldn't want a homosexual in my fraternity because it's a sin according to the Bible.

[brownsugardivah]

My views about gays in fraternities are nothing. I think you should judge a person by their character and not their sexual preference. Same as I would view lesbians who were in my auxiliary. I judge them by their heart and service to the organization. HOWEVER the representation of the organization is at stake. If someones personal relationships are going to affect the organization in a NEGATIVE way than something should be done to prevent it or that individual should keep personal issues and their service to their organization separate.

[nittanyalum]

Not trying to fix anything, just pointing out that some here doth protest too much. As has been pointed out many, many times on numerous threads, those that are truly "all that" don't need to wear a big neon sign that says "hey, know what? I'm all that!" Truths are self-evident, they don't need to be shoved down your throat.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Truths are self-evident, they don't need to be shoved down your throat.

We hold these truths to be self evident?

And of course those who ball shall also shove down throats. Their traditions and elitism, that is.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Don't sweat it. Just keep balling those openly gay rushees as soon as they cum out.

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

And of course those who ball shall also shove down throats. Their traditions and elitism, that is.

More awesomeness.

[Senusret I]

Communal showers are gay. Who does that in 2008?

Gay and poor.

[Senusret I]

60 guys living in a house with communal showers is gay and poor. Gross.

You might as well just install cameras and get subscribers.

[Senusret I]

Whether she knows it or not, eh gubnah? *wink wink*

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Whether she knows it or not, eh gubnah? *wink wink*

BAHhahahahahahahaha. I'm choking on green tea right now.

[DSTCHAOS]

[brunetteddd]

Personally, I have no issues with people being gay (and if I had a sister who was a lesbian, it wouldn't bother me in the least). However, fraternities are private organizations and have the right to allow or deny anyone from membership, just like if a fraternity is having a party and doesn't want someone to come in - it's a private function.

Now, whether or not you think that the reasoning behind it is legitimate or bigoted, you have to admit - that's their prerogative.