gpa required for the following chapters?

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by gee_ess

One chapter I am familiar with cuts first round based on grades, so yes, chapters are cutting based on grades. I would venture that a lot of them are making first cuts based on this.

With the new release figures method, chapters are having to make heavier cuts earlier on, and alot of the time, grades are the only thing you really have to go on. When you HAVE to cut a certain number of women, you just go with the lowest GPAs.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by gee_ess

One chapter I am familiar with cuts first round based on grades, so yes, chapters are cutting based on grades. I would venture that a lot of them are making first cuts based on this.

There were rumors of one chapter at the UofA cutting anyone less than 3.75 out of high school.

I'd put the odds on truth at say 3:1

[gee_ess]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

There were rumors of one chapter at the UofA cutting anyone less than 3.75 out of high school.

I'd put the odds on truth at say 3:1

Hmmm...that gpa sounds very high to base cuts on unless they were in some sort of academic crisis as a chapter. I am not familiar with that happening, but I might be in the dark.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by gee_ess

Hmmm...that gpa sounds very high to base cuts on unless they were in some sort of academic crisis as a chapter. I am not familiar with that happening, but I might be in the dark.

It is very high but they're also the sorority with the highest GPA on campus (I think)...I missed the Omega Awards this year so it might've changed.

[gee_ess]

^^^ I agree. That was the point I was trying to make to another poster. You just did it better!

[SoCalGirl]

I recall a lot of raised eyebrows at anything under a 3.9 for a freshman. I can't remember the actual required gpa for a freshman because it was a non issue. But a freshman with a (in comparison) low gpa would get analyzed closer. At the very least out of curiosity as to how she snagged a spot in the freshman class.

[violetpretty]

I guess it depends on the academic strength of the particular university, but at a school that is hard to get into (let's say under 35% admitted) cutting based on GPA for freshmen in the fall seems to be splitting hairs. At a prestigious school, how low of a HS GPA can a PNM have and still have gotten in? The real sorter is once you have those first semester grades, because everyone may have done well in high school, but college is a different ball game. Can you be sure that a PNM with a 3.94 in HS is going to do better in college than a PNM with a 3.78 in HS? I don't think so.

[Kitemom]

I know at Texas Tech, Tex A&M HS grades are used by some chapters as first round cut. Probably not so at UT since bascially the entire freshmen class is in the top 10% of the HS class or they wouldn't be there.

[Zillini]

General advice I give girls who are interested in Greek Life regardless of campus: The more competitive the recruitment, the higher the minimum GPA chapters will look for. The same goes for the more popular the chapter.

[Cutie_Hootie]

Just have to say:
This discussion may be the first, last, and only time I've been glad I'm an advisor at a campus with deferred recruitment!!

[gee_ess]

cutie- Just curious, do you not consider gpa much of a factor on your campus? I would think that gpa would still be a big deal -especially with deferred recruitment(at semester, right?) to see how the girls are managing with a college load...

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by gee_ess

cutie- Just curious, do you not consider gpa much of a factor on your campus? I would think that gpa would still be a big deal -especially with deferred recruitment(at semester, right?) to see how the girls are managing with a college load...

Probably because when recruitment is deferred, you make REAL cuts based on GPA. High school GPAs are not necessarily indicative of how well someone will do in college, but if you wait a semester, there's your answer. It re-sorts everyone instead of splitting hairs for speculation.

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

Maybe she's referring to the fact that you only have to worry about one standard to judge grades. I know we had several frustrated advisers that couldn't understand why we'd "tsk tsk" at a freshman with a 3.7 but be in awe of a 2nd/3rd year with a 3.2 gpa.

Exactly.

[Tom Earp]

I hope some remeber that GPA is very important, but the point also should be taken of how important they may be for the chapter. How else can they help the Chapter. What else did they do pre college.

I founded a local and was on GPA probation until I graduated.

We have been there since 1965 and will be celebrating our Chartering with LXA in 1969 which means 40 Years in 2009!

Was it worth it? Heck Yes! Not everyone had The GPA, but became very important for our growth. One is now a District Court Judge and many are business owners or major people with Toyota, Chrysler, John Deere, Catapiller ETAL., from what they learned not only from College, but being part of our group!

New teens have more and are more self centered with what they have, but still have a lot to learn in College not just grades, but how to operate with people!

What better way? Becoming a member of a Greek of a Society

[33girl]

The events in the post you quoted happened 40+ years ago. Things are different now.

[Cutie_Hootie]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

Probably because when recruitment is deferred, you make REAL cuts based on GPA. High school GPAs are not necessarily indicative of how well someone will do in college, but if you wait a semester, there's your answer. It re-sorts everyone instead of splitting hairs for speculation.

Exactly. When we look at GPAs for our girls, we know how they measure up against the campus standard. Plus, as a guidance counselor, I know that what is an honor student at high school A would barely be in the top half in high school B. So this evens out the playing field a great deal.

But on the flip side...
Every year, we have a much larger number of girls sign up for Recruitment than actually go through--because grades come out and they are no longer eligible. I've always thought of it from the standpoint that if we had Fall Recruitment, we could work with these girls to get their grades up and have them in our scholarship programs from the beginning. Plus, quota would be higher and we could raise total back to where it was a few years ago. Now I acknowledge how wonderful it is that every girl who pledges is academically eligible to be initiated. Although we stress scholarship (after all, my girls better keep their #1 status on campus!!!), it's not a constant worry like it would be if they were in their first semester. I would hate to have to come to a new member and tell her she wasn't eligible for initiation with her class due to her first semester grades.