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Old 04-14-2008, 12:28 AM
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We depledge around five guys a fall semester.
Same here. We initiated 33/51 last semester.
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Old 04-14-2008, 04:37 PM
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Same here. We initiated 33/51 last semester.

And in respones to this I wonder why?

There are two reasons to boot someone!

They did not pay their bills or their GPA was not right!

If you did a good recruitment job then the % should have been higher. Or was it a pig in a poke rush?
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Old 04-14-2008, 04:53 PM
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And in respones to this I wonder why?

There are two reasons to boot someone!

They did not pay their bills or their GPA was not right!

If you did a good recruitment job then the % should have been higher. Or was it a pig in a poke rush?
No, there are plenty of reasons to boot someone. We go into rush planning on booting at least 5 and trying to get others to quit.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:38 PM
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No, there are plenty of reasons to boot someone. We go into rush planning on booting at least 5 and trying to get others to quit.

That is one of the most ignorant things I have ever seen or heard!
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Old 04-15-2008, 05:57 PM
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That is one of the most ignorant things I have ever seen or heard!
I have to make an addendum to it.

We know that we will make some bad choices during rush. We know we will make at least 5 bad choices (because we're idiots, sometimes). We try to make good choices, but usually around 5 slip through the cracks...even if we signed them before school started.
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Overall, though, it's the bigness of the car that counts the most. Because when something bad happens in a really big car – accidentally speeding through the middle of a gang of unruly young people who have been taunting you in a drive-in restaurant, for instance – it happens very far away – way out at the end of your fenders. It's like a civil war in Africa; you know, it doesn't really concern you too much. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Old 04-15-2008, 06:34 PM
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We depledge around five guys a fall semester.
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That's why we do it...our numbers are very, very similar. Some can't make it, even though we aren't asking them to do bows and toes on glass or some dangerous or homoerotic hazing. I guess the stress of always being alert gets to some people. We'll depledge around 5 and then get rid of the worthless by other means.
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No, there are plenty of reasons to boot someone. We go into rush planning on booting at least 5 and trying to get others to quit.
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I have to make an addendum to it.

We know that we will make some bad choices during rush. We know we will make at least 5 bad choices (because we're idiots, sometimes). We try to make good choices, but usually around 5 slip through the cracks...even if we signed them before school started.
EW;
I am, after seeing you post here over the past year or so, rather confused over your sudden expertise and experience.
You changed schools, you posted that you choose not to re-affiliated with "new" chapter as you did not think too highly of the Brothers there, and as well as not even being on campus and being out of touch with events there.
And during all this, you are somehow involved with IFC and rush rather that the chapter that you never affiliated with???
What , you kissed and made up? If so, do they know what you said about them???
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Old 04-15-2008, 06:50 PM
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EW;
I am, after seeing you post here over the past year or so, rather confused over your sudden expertise and experience.
You changed schools, you posted that you choose not to re-affiliated with "new" chapter as you did not think too highly of the Brothers there, and as well as not even being on campus and being out of touch with events there.
And during all this, you are somehow involved with IFC and rush rather that the chapter that you never affiliated with???
What , you kissed and made up? If so, do they know what you said about them???
Absolutely on all counts.

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Old 04-14-2008, 04:55 PM
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And in respones to this I wonder why?

There are two reasons to boot someone!

They did not pay their bills or their GPA was not right!

If you did a good recruitment job then the % should have been higher. Or was it a pig in a poke rush?
Tommy Boy, there are countless other reasons to give a pledge the boot besides not paying your dues and not having a high GPA.

Hell, I really don't even really care about GPA. Usually the ones that can't make the minimum requirements are just held over. Some kids have a tough time with school their first semester of college, I didn't, but I can understand some that do. If they are just blowing shit off, I don't have much sympathy, but if they show that they actually made an honest effort to do well.......I'm not one to ruin their year because of it.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:19 PM
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Tommy Boy, there are countless other reasons to give a pledge the boot besides not paying your dues and not having a high GPA.

Hell, I really don't even really care about GPA. Usually the ones that can't make the minimum requirements are just held over. Some kids have a tough time with school their first semester of college, I didn't, but I can understand some that do. If they are just blowing shit off, I don't have much sympathy, but if they show that they actually made an honest effort to do well.......I'm not one to ruin their year because of it.

First off, I am not your Tommy Boy!

And, I do agree with you on your previous statement! If they cannot abide by what is needed of them or they just piss it off, then they should be gone.

But for some to say that they expect to get rid of people gauls me.

If they are not good enough to work with and try to make it, do not recruit them except just to show numbers!
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:34 PM
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Well, not just to show numbers.... $$$$
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Old 04-15-2008, 03:33 PM
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First off, I am not your Tommy Boy!

And, I do agree with you on your previous statement! If they cannot abide by what is needed of them or they just piss it off, then they should be gone.

But for some to say that they expect to get rid of people gauls me.

If they are not good enough to work with and try to make it, do not recruit them except just to show numbers!
Tom, there is no way of knowing how a kid will turn out simply through rush. It isn't hard to put on a good show for us. I've seen it countless times. Kid comes through rush and we think he is the greatness. Turns out he's a complete tool.

I don't care anything about numbers. Most really good houses don't care either.......they get what they comfortably need every year and it works great.
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Old 04-15-2008, 05:00 PM
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Tom, there is no way of knowing how a kid will turn out simply through rush. It isn't hard to put on a good show for us. I've seen it countless times. Kid comes through rush and we think he is the greatness. Turns out he's a complete tool.

I don't care anything about numbers. Most really good houses don't care either.......they get what they comfortably need every year and it works great.

This is one of the most serious and important posts you have made and you are 100% correct.

We as GLOs can only hope for the very best in recruitment.

Some will make it and others not make it!
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Old 04-14-2008, 07:56 AM
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Those numbers are crazy to me. The most we've gotten rid of since I've been here was 3/31, so we initiated 28/31. One or two don't make it each semester- our bid meetings are hell.
33 is nothing to scoff at, but why lose 18 men during the pledge process? Just to find the best of the class and keep them? I'm not asking for specifics or anything, just curious.
That's why we do it...our numbers are very, very similar. Some can't make it, even though we aren't asking them to do bows and toes on glass or some dangerous or homoerotic hazing. I guess the stress of always being alert gets to some people. We'll depledge around 5 and then get rid of the worthless by other means.
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