Obama scoring points with rural voters...

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by skylark

Heaven forbid we have a President who thinks we are all intelligent adults enough to comprehend a semi-controversial idea. Heaven forbid we have a President who actually cares about figuring out what the origins and causes of our problems (like hatred) are. Heaven forbid we have a President who thinks America can handle hearing the truth and isn't afraid to be the one to share it.

Whoa, wait - the "truth" is that rural people are racist (or zealots, or violent, or..) because of the actions of the government? (I realize this is a gross oversimplification, but so was the original statement, to be quite honest)

Like . . . I can't decide which half of that sentence intelligent adults would prefer to reject first when handling this "semi-controversial" idea.

Instead of figuring out the cause of a legitimate problem (such as hatred), this appears to be a smear campaign that both pigeonholes the problem to a very small subsection of the population and conveniently washes his hands of the problem by blaming nebulous actions of others. Whoever wrote this for him is likely already fired, but the shitcanning should be redoubled - this exact statement just doesn't say what it's supposed to. It doesn't seem like an honest appraisal, but rather a pandering gloss-over.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Whoa, wait - the "truth" is that rural people are racist (or zealots, or violent, or..) because of the actions of the government? (I realize this is a gross oversimplification, but so was the original statement, to be quite honest)

Like . . . I can't decide which half of that sentence intelligent adults would prefer to reject first when handling this "semi-controversial" idea.

Instead of figuring out the cause of a legitimate problem (such as hatred), this appears to be a smear campaign that both pigeonholes the problem to a very small subsection of the population and conveniently washes his hands of the problem by blaming nebulous actions of others. Whoever wrote this for him is likely already fired, but the shitcanning should be redoubled - this exact statement just doesn't say what it's supposed to. It doesn't seem like an honest appraisal, but rather a pandering gloss-over.

But the worst part is that it doesn't seem like it was written for him, but rather something that he said that he might actually believe, indicating that he's truly more of a panderer that maybe I'd hoped.

[skylark]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Whoa, wait - the "truth" is that rural people are racist (or zealots, or violent, or..) because of the actions of the government? (I realize this is a gross oversimplification, but so was the original statement, to be quite honest)

I said "causes." As in one of many (see my last post on this, as well). I think you're the one oversimplifying if you think that's what either I or Obama meant.

And I stand by it as one cause. I've talked to many people that when something like affirmative action, sexual harassment, environmentalism, etc. comes up, these people talk in a way that those that they make ties between that as a/the reason they haven't made more of their life. I think there's an overwhelming feeling of "hey, what about me?" among white, right-wing people that have had a hard time economically because they lived their lives honestly and feel cheated. I think it is human nature to want to find some blame. It is easier to blame the people who don't look like you or come from where you come from than to blame the causes closer to home and that are harder to identify.

[shinerbock]

I want a President who isn't PC also.

However, until Barack openly admits what it is that threatens America (hint: it starts with islamofascism) I'm not really buying the "he gives it to us straight" thing.

[UGAalum94]

And wasn't what he said PC as we generally understand the term?

Isn't it more politically correct to blame people's not adopting the right attitude in the present on the government having failed to deliver in the past, rather than blaming them for their own intolerance or ignorance (as your audience would see it)?

A non-PC response might have been "those rednecks are too stupid to get out of their own way and vote for the party and candidate that is more likely to deliver the goods."

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

And wasn't what he said PC as we generally understand the term?

Isn't it more politically correct to blame people's not adopting the right attitude in the present on the government having failed to deliver in the past, rather than blaming them for their own intolerance or ignorance (as your audience would see it)?

A non-PC response might have been "those rednecks are too stupid to get out of their own way and vote for the party and candidate that is more likely to deliver the goods."

somewhere out there...a John Foxworthy response awaits.......