Obama scoring points with rural voters...

[DaemonSeid]

Wait....so what part did he say wasn't true?

The cut in aid given to small towns and farmers part or the antipathy part?


25 years huh:


Hmmmmm....

Let's see if I remember coorectly , Reagan made cuts waaaay back in 1985, one that his Argicultural secretary John Block supported saying that farmers made it this long without govt support, and they can continue.


Anyone remember a small concert called Farm Aid?

George H while not adding taxes raised the existing taxes

Bill Clinton while not as swift to take more money from farmers did hop on the NAFTA train and many jobs got outsourced.

George W. has been cutting agricultural spending since 2000 and in 2005 cut well over 3 billion dollars from farmers' pocket.


maybe it's just me, but I think that if I was in those folks' shoes, I would be a bit salty also come election time....

The above is the short version....

Obama an Ivy league (Harvard) elitist??

And I guess the fact that George Bush Sr and Jr along with Bill Clinton having ties with Yale and Oxford means they went to 'less elitist' schools...


maybe that's what this is all about... Harvard vs Yale for the Big House FTW.

hehe.....and so it goes.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Wait....so what part did he say wasn't true?

The cut in aid given to small towns and farmers part or the antipathy part?


25 years huh:


Hmmmmm....

Let's see if I remember coorectly , Reagan made cuts waaaay back in 1985, one that his Argicultural secretary John Block supported saying that farmers made it this long without govt support, and they can continue.


Anyone remember a small concert called Farm Aid?

George H while not raising taxes added taxes

Bill Clinton while not as swift to take more money from farmers did hop on the NAFTA train and many jobs got outsourced.

George W. has been cutting agricultural spending since 2000 and in 2005 cut well over 3 billion dollars from farmers' pocket.


maybe it's just me, but I think that if I was in those folks' shoes, I would be a bit salty also come election time....

The above is the short version....

Obama an Ivy league (Harvard) elitist??

And I guess the fact that George Bush Sr and Jr along with Bill Clinton having ties with Yale and Oxford means they went to 'less elitist' schools...


maybe that's what this is all about... Harvard vs Yale for the Big House FTW.

hehe.....and so it goes.

The part that "isn't true" is that he attributes people's feelings on issues to economic circumstances and being bitter, which might be what good hearted liberals want to think about poor people who don't share their values, but may not actually be the case. They may "cling" to their guns because they think the 2nd amendment is a big deal and they may not trust the government to know best. It might not have anything to do with factories closing down or cuts in Farm spending.

ETA: did you actually read the comment for yourself? I may be wrong, but I don't think anyone is fired up about the idea that economically these voters aren't in good shape, and yet your response seems to be about proving that the gov't hasn't been good to them. The problem is that the people that Obama is talking about are never going to see themselves as bitter about what the government failed to deliver economically. They probably don't see themselves are wanting a handout.