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Old 04-04-2008, 01:35 PM
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Interesting stuff William. Interesting, but there are other, more widely accepted historical versions of the picture you're painting. Hazing in the U.S. traces back to as early as 1657. I don't think it was so much to "remove innocence" as you put it, but hazing is and was a tool to assimilate young people of various backgrounds into the university system, build loyalty, teach respect and hierarchy, etc.

I wouldn't say that it's being removed is purely a "politically correct" move, but rather a response to the fact that hazing accidents, injuries and deaths create monetary liability. Recent legislative endeavors have also rendered hazing criminal in many cases.

As for the word "allege," I'm a law student at the moment. The words I choose are probably not those a "normal" human being would choose.

I'd like to hear more about the Luciferians. Are you saying that academia, and through it, the greek system is satanic? You can't just go around saying Luciferians are behind something without explaining who those folks are.
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Old 04-04-2008, 03:25 PM
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I apologise for misunderstanding you.

That's interesting that you have records showing that hazing was already practiced in 1657. How many fraternities were there back then? I guess that the percentage of fraternities that practiced hazing at the time must have been significantly higher back then no?

I am fully aware of all the functions of hazing including it's function in fostering loyalty, teaching respect and hierarchy, etc. All of these things are necessary for a civilisation like ours to flourish and progress.

Hazing actually goes right back to the beginnings of civilisation when man first began to discover what we call the arts and sciences. The different professions we needed for a civilisation to function were taught by what we now call the mystery schools. All the things you learn today such as law, history, maths etc. were all taught by the mystery schools in early civilisations. Along with this instruction, man also received spiritual instruction. Not the kind you get in church but real instruction into the mysteries.

Now you ask me if Universities and thus the Greek system are "Satanic". This is an interesting question. Universities are half of the modern day equivalent of the mystery schools, fraternal orders are the other half. It all really depends on what you call Satanic.

To a Luciferian darkness is ignorance and innocence. To many religions darkness is knowledge and wisdom. That is why scientists and artists don't get on very well with the Priestcraft even today where current progress in Genetics is hotly debated and artists such as Eminem and Marilyn Manson are picketed by zealots.

If you sit and think about knowledge and wisdom it can get quite interesting. Absolute wisdom and knowledge is absolute lack of innocence and ignorance. Therefore to achieve these two things absolutely you would need to learn everything that is possible and to have absolutely every experience that is possible. Of course this is impossible. What is not impossible is to currently strive to gain wisdom and knowledge through experience and learning. Now weak people are afraid of wisdom because they are afraid of the unknown and new experiences. The snake of wisdom is constantly labouring to destroy the lamb of innocence. Strong humans beings are wired to enjoy the destruction of innocence either their own or others. Weak and fearful humans are afraid of this force and invent all sorts of righteous dogmas in order to have an excuse to combat it and maintain as many humans as possible in a state of ignorance and innocence. The house arrest of Gallileo is a good example of this.

So... Is wisdom dark because it seeks to destroy innocence or is innocence dark because it allows humans to be manipulated by Pontiffs and Tyrants? To the Luciferian it is innocence that represents the dark force and wisdom the light.

Human myth and tradition tells us of a lightbearer who brought the knowledge of good and evil, the arts and sciences and wisdom to man. This is the snake in the garden of Eden who inspired the line of Cain (builder of the first city) (this is symbolic by the way). In Babylonian myth the entity who brought wisdom and the arts and sciences is called Oannes or John. I don't want to pimp my blog but you can read more about it there as I don-t have the time to entirely repeat myself.

So to me, a Luciferian, Universities and the Greek system are the opposite of Satanic. But , to an informed Christian the Greek system is Satanic as are all fraternal orders that practice the wisdom or Luciferian tradition.

To finish off. Hazing is important because it allows the individual to experience what quite honestly is intensive abuse and cruelty from a group of individuals. It is unlikely that he will ever get a chance to have this experience again in life unless he joins the army or ends up in prison etc. As you mentioned before this experience also teaches him the denial of the self which is an important spiritual experience as well as helping him conform better to the institutions he is about to belong to. It is also a good idea for him to experience this as a young person because you need to be physically fit for some of the trials and tribulations.

As I said before. Don't just role over for the politically correct crowd. Think about it first. And if we have to be secret again then we will be secret. We have done it before

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William Sheraton

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