Nine-year-olds in U.S. plotted to tie up and hurt teacher

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by carnation

The principal seemed to be in denial. In an article in our paper, he was saying that the kids were in special ed classes but too intelligent to do that (hey mister, sounds like they were really going to do it) and that they were good kids. Maybe some of them were roped into it but it seems that there were a few bad apples in the bunch,

From the CNN update:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/01/....ap/index.html
"This is an isolated incident, an aberration. ... We have good kids," Center Principal Angie Coleman told the newspaper"
Tanner is the Chef of Police:

[DaemonSeid]

that's part of why I hated kids being labelled special ed....some of them aren't that 'special'...some of them just needs an @sswhuppin'....

[FSUZeta]

i hope that more information is released. i find it alarming that 3rd graders were capable of orchestrating such an elaborate plan and one that was so evil. drawing a picture of the teacher as a devil or writing "i hate mrs. smith", but knives?

does anyone know if the kids were all 8 or 9 years old, or were some of them older?

[FSUZeta]

just saw that the ages ranged from 8 to 10. wow!

oops. thanks jon!

[Munchkin03]

I don't know...as appalling as this is, it's not really that surprising. Kids watch SO much TV now, with little to no supervision from their parents. I'm sure some kid saw something that inspired them to do this.

[DaemonSeid]

I know this is wrong. I know it. But when they were discribing it on the news, why was I cracking up. play handcuffs, a broken knife, duct tape. This seems like a scene from Our Gang. Sadly, why I should not have laughed...it was/is reality. But the sickness in me stills find it comical.

"You tie her up"
"But I only have my TMNT numchucks. I want to bash her scull in"
"My daddy bought me a bow and arrow set. I can shoot her through the eye"
"We can get away in my Escalade Power Weels. It is four wheel drive"
"I still have my handcuffs I got last birthday. I think I have a key. If not, I know how to unlock them to put them on her"
"Otay and don't forget that duck tape."
"Okay, it sounds like a plan. Tomorrow we bring the b*tch down."
"Yeah!!"

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I know this is wrong. I know it. But when they were discribing it on the news, why was I cracking up. play handcuffs, a broken knife, duct tape. This seems like a scene from Our Gang. Sadly, why I should not have laughed...it was/is reality. But the sickness in me stills find it comical.

"You tie her up"
"But I only have my TMNT numchucks. I want to bash her scull in"
"My daddy bought me a bow and arrow set. I can shoot her through the eye"
"We can get away in my Escalade Power Weels. It is four wheel drive"
"I still have my handcuffs I got last birthday. I think I have a key. If not, I know how to unlock them to put them on her"
"Otay and don't forget that duck tape."
"Okay, it sounds like a plan. Tomorrow we bring the b*tch down."
"Yeah!!"

As "sick" as your posting maybe, what is even sicker is that the conversation between the kids may have been rather close to that.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I don't know...as appalling as this is, it's not really that surprising. Kids watch SO much TV now, with little to no supervision from their parents. I'm sure some kid saw something that inspired them to do this.

you're right,

this is TV's fault. We need to spend countless millions and give more power to FCC and then nothing bad will ever happen to anyone ever again.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

that's part of why I hated kids being labelled special ed....some of them aren't that 'special'...some of them just needs an @sswhuppin'....

I agree. I know a "special ed" teacher who has had one child break her leg, another shove her down the steps.

I'm not going to pretend to know what to do with these kids, but something really has to give.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by honeychile

I agree. I know a "special ed" teacher who has had one child break her leg, another shove her down the steps.

I'm not going to pretend to know what to do with these kids, but something really has to give.

In my experience most people hired to deal with us never had a clue.

You're friend probably could've avoided that situation. And i'm sure that the punishment for the student who defended him/herself against your friend was completely uncalled for.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

In my experience most people hired to deal with us never had a clue.

You're friend probably could've avoided that situation. And i'm sure that the punishment for the student who defended him/herself against your friend was completely uncalled for.

Are you kidding or trying to be deliberately offensive? You read a story about a teacher getting her leg broken and pushed down stairs, and you assume that the student was defending himself or herself? Did I miss something?

I think that "the teacher deserved it comments here" were probably in jest, right? How else are kids going to learn the capital of Vermont?

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Are you kidding or trying to be deliberately offensive? You read a story about a teacher getting her leg broken and pushed down stairs, and you assume that the student was defending himself or herself? Did I miss something?

I think that "the teacher deserved it comments here" were probably in jest, right? How else are kids going to learn the capital of Vermont?

just trying to add some balance. Special Ed teachers, while some are angels, some are devils. I know. I went through the system. But untill i see indisputable proof that the kid did that for no reason, I will assume it was the teacher at fault, as everyone else seems ready to blame the student.

No i'm not Kidding. I'm not being deliberately offensive, but if you're offended I couldn't care less.

There are more bad people than good that teach special ed. I wouldn't be surprised at all if those teacher's deserved it.

[RaggedyAnn]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

just trying to add some balance. Special Ed teachers, while some are angels, some are devils. I know. I went through the system. But untill i see indisputable proof that the kid did that for no reason, I will assume it was the teacher at fault, as everyone else seems ready to blame the student.

No i'm not Kidding. I'm not being deliberately offensive, but if you're offended I couldn't care less.

There are more bad people than good that teach special ed. I wouldn't be surprised at all if those teacher's deserved it.

I can't believe you would say that. Do you know that there is a very high precentage of teachers that have been assaulted in their career? It is ridiculously high. My mother was one of them. Her student was kicked out of 3 classes before hers. It was the students that reported it because they were so tramatized. Teachers are highly underpaid and underappreciated.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

just trying to add some balance. Special Ed teachers, while some are angels, some are devils. I know. I went through the system. But untill i see indisputable proof that the kid did that for no reason, I will assume it was the teacher at fault, as everyone else seems ready to blame the student.

No i'm not Kidding. I'm not being deliberately offensive, but if you're offended I couldn't care less.

There are more bad people than good that teach special ed. I wouldn't be surprised at all if those teacher's deserved it.

She disciplined (another article used the word "scolded") one of the students for standing on a chair.

That bitch. Cut her!

This article reports that experts are now saying they doubt the kids would have actually followed through with the attack. That's fine and all, but the fact that a bunch of 9-year-olds were even TALKING about doing something like this in such detail is disturbing -- bringing gloves, assigning kids to cover the windows and others to clean up the blood -- agh!

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

just trying to add some balance. Special Ed teachers, while some are angels, some are devils. I know. I went through the system. But untill i see indisputable proof that the kid did that for no reason, I will assume it was the teacher at fault, as everyone else seems ready to blame the student.

No i'm not Kidding. I'm not being deliberately offensive, but if you're offended I couldn't care less.

There are more bad people than good that teach special ed. I wouldn't be surprised at all if those teacher's deserved it.

You are saying that bad special education teachers deserve to be killed or pushed down stairs? Does that really make sense to you?

I'm not really offended but I'm thinking you're a little unhinged, maybe just about this issue, I don't know. I don't care if you don't, but if you're posting your opinions and you want to sell an idea, maybe advocating the murder of bad teachers isn't the way to go.