Possible UMASS Expansion

[GammaZeta]

So it's ok to ignore something that may be potetially damaging to the fraternity?

Tom, ignoring something doesn't fix it.

That is how LXA almost got screwed before. Tom, I don't need to remind you what happened last decade.

You show the typical attitude: everything is fine as long as we don't hear about it.

Then, after years of ignoring a problem, it explodes in our face.

The only way we will get better is if we fix our problems, not ignore them.

Others have pm'd me about some of their experiences and what they have heard.

Why is it such a sin to say that something in our fraternity may be broken? Why is it wrong to say we should look at certain processes?

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by GammaZeta

So it's ok to ignore something that may be potetially damaging to the fraternity?

Tom, ignoring something doesn't fix it.

That is how LXA almost got screwed before. Tom, I don't need to remind you what happened last decade.

You show the typical attitude: everything is fine as long as we don't hear about it.

Then, after years of ignoring a problem, it explodes in our face.

The only way we will get better is if we fix our problems, not ignore them.

Others have pm'd me about some of their experiences and what they have heard.

Why is it such a sin to say that something in our fraternity may be broken? Why is it wrong to say we should look at certain processes?

GammaZeta, I am far from ignoring anything of the past of what went on and what is going on now. I know where we were under the previous two Executive Secretary and the leader of LCAP!

All three are now gone.

Bill Farkas became Executive Secretary in 2005 for your information and there have been cuts that needed to be made and LXA is now in a better financial position than we have been in a long time.

Do you know that there is a new leader ship at UMass that are more Greek Friendly?

Do You know that there is a talk of a Greek Village at UMass?

Do you know that a presentation was and has been made to UMass from LXA?

Do you know that there has been contact with Brothers who are Alumni of GZ?

Do you know IHQ is highly impressed with the ones they talked with?

Do you know that LXA is supposed be strongly looked at at 2010?

Do you know who to contact on campus about Greek Affairs?

Do you know that the IFC turned down LXA coming on campus at present?

I am wondering what you really know?

Either you are in with working to get Gamma Zeta back or you are not.

Which is it?

[GammaZeta]

Tom, I KNOW all of that. That's not my point.

This doesn't have anything to do with Gamma Zeta!

This has to do with the possibility that HQ was wrongfully influenced for personal reasons into making an uninformed, bad decision on recolonization, that may have delayed recolonization for 4-5 years.

THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. It is about that possibility, the PROCESS that decisions are made.

I'll say it again, nice and slow for you to understand...this....isn't....about...Gamma...Zeta ...

Again: This has to do with the possibility that HQ was wrongfully influenced for personal reasons into making an uninformed, bad decision on recolonization, that may have delayed recolonization for 4-5 years.

^^^ THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT ^^^

We need to find out if this actually happened. I've received enough information where it seems that something like this MAY have occured.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by GammaZeta

Tom, I KNOW all of that. That's not my point.

This doesn't have anything to do with Gamma Zeta!

This has to do with the possibility that HQ was wrongfully influenced for personal reasons into making an uninformed, bad decision on recolonization, that may have delayed recolonization for 4-5 years.

THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. It is about that possibility, the PROCESS that decisions are made.

I'll say it again, nice and slow for you to understand...this....isn't....about...Gamma...Zeta ...

Again: This has to do with the possibility that HQ was wrongfully influenced for personal reasons into making an uninformed, bad decision on recolonization, that may have delayed recolonization for 4-5 years.

^^^ THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT ^^^

We need to find out if this actually happened. I've received enough information where it seems that something like this MAY have occured.

You know, I wonder what your adgenda really is.

You refer about decissions that were made and wrongly influenced and by whom?

You make accusations but I do not know if you really are a Brother?

I do not find you in any rolls of LXA or of G Z as a member!

Maybe you can contact IHQ and have them verify it for me?

I am getting very tired of your tirades and gets overly tedious!

I have presented what I know and you say you know as well, well, I do not think you really do!

[GammaZeta]

Sure Tom, I'd be more than happy to type out 3rd for you. Just let me know.

I won't let the pm's that were given to me go public unless I get permission from the people first.

All I know is this. People said Umass greek system was dead and that LXA would "never come back to Umass". All the while, fraternity after fraternity was recolonized.

Now all of a sudden, less than 1.5 years later, Umass is suddenly a hotspot of greek activity.

Something's fishy.

[lenoxxx]

I think that man is always going to find ways to not run organizations the best way possible- Lambda Chi Alpha is no exception- no matter what policies we put in to protect against people taking personal stakes or doing things in their best interest as opposed to the group's perceived best interest.

Money Lenders/ Corrupt Priests in the Bible
Tammany Hall in the 1800's in NYC
Communist Leaders in the 1960's in Russia
French aristocracy 1700's (pre French Revolution?)

When the injustice becomes too much there is normally change or oversight in place, then over time it gets lax and things become more selfish and corrupt again. Again, Lambda Chi Alpha is no different than any other group of people. Perhaps we as a fraternity did discriminate against certain chapters, and now they want to deal with that situation in a more "fair" way.

What we are seeing is the natural cycle of an organization and the ego's of the people that lead it, combined with the will and voice of the people pulling it back to them over time.

[GammaZeta]

That's a pretty damn good response Leno.

What I would like to see is our ability to recognize a mistake as an organization and LEARN from it. That is my point.

Something happened in the past, but the most important step is to learn from it. What changes do we have to make to not repeat our mistakes as an organization.

Maybe some checks and balances? Maybe a neutral committee?

Those who do not learn from the past...