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Old 03-31-2008, 09:00 AM
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I saw the tape, and I am torn also.

The man attacked the cops first. He was HUGE. They had to subdue him.

But the beating that followed was just....savage. The force they used seems so excessive. Once the man is on the ground, don't you stop beating him?

He died because of that beating. I understand that he started the confrontation, but the police were wrong.
The police were WRONG? This is pretty audacious thing to say, and let me tell you I'm NO fan of the Cincinnati Police!

The guy lunged at police. They told him 16 times to put his hands behind his back, and he continued to resist.

I ask you this. The guy was hyped up on drugs, was beligerent, and attacked a police officer. What if he got a hold of the officers gun? Sound outrageous? Well it happened with a female officer who was on patrol in her car. A man forced his way in, got her gun and shot her.

Nathaniel Jones put the police in a no-win situation, then we have ridiculously thoughtless comments such as yours.

If they used a gun to subdue him, they were screwed. If they used a taser to subdue him, they were screwed (in his state, that probably would've killed him, too). Batons are pretty much all that's left, and those tend not to work too well on a guy whose 350 pounds. The autopsy showed only a few bruises and no internal organ injuries. There were no blows above the shoulders.

It's mind-numbing what you just said. Simply mind-numbing. Maybe it's because Mr. Jones lived blocks away from my house (his street crosses mine) and this situation is personal to me, and I see the sht the police have to put up with here.
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Old 03-31-2008, 09:10 AM
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The police were WRONG? This is pretty audacious thing to say, and let me tell you I'm NO fan of the Cincinnati Police!

The guy lunged at police. They told him 16 times to put his hands behind his back, and he continued to resist.

I ask you this. The guy was hyped up on drugs, was beligerent, and attacked a police officer. What if he got a hold of the officers gun? Sound outrageous? Well it happened with a female officer who was on patrol in her car. A man forced his way in, got her gun and shot her.

Nathaniel Jones put the police in a no-win situation, then we have ridiculously thoughtless comments such as yours.

If they used a gun to subdue him, they were screwed. If they used a taser to subdue him, they were screwed (in his state, that probably would've killed him, too). Batons are pretty much all that's left, and those tend not to work too well on a guy whose 350 pounds. The autopsy showed only a few bruises and no internal organ injuries. There were no blows above the shoulders.

It's mind-numbing what you just said. Simply mind-numbing. Maybe it's because Mr. Jones lived blocks away from my house (his street crosses mine) and this situation is personal to me, and I see the sht the police have to put up with here.
If it's so personal to you, you need to deal with it on your own -- not by googling the man's name and dredging up a five year old post. Seriously, get real.
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Old 05-27-2008, 04:02 PM
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If it's so personal to you, you need to deal with it on your own -- not by googling the man's name and dredging up a five year old post. Seriously, get real.
Funny thing about a message board is that no one forces anyone to read anything. It's kind of a free will thing. I mean no one forced you to read my post, much less respond. I don't have that power over you. No one does. Yet you chose to spend your time doing so.

That's no one's fault...but your own. Work on your rationality...please.

And you make a good point, albeit unintentionally. The internet lives forever. People still write articles on this topic and come upon these boards much the same way I did.

Quite frankly, I was having a discussion about this very topic elsewhere, which to this day is very relevant, very important.

Seriously...get real.
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Old 05-27-2008, 04:16 PM
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Funny thing about a message board is that no one forces anyone to read anything. It's kind of a free will thing. I mean no one forced you to read my post, much less respond. I don't have that power over you. No one does. Yet you chose to spend your time doing so.

That's no one's fault...but your own. Work on your rationality...please.

And you make a good point, albeit unintentionally. The internet lives forever. People still write articles on this topic and come upon these boards much the same way I did.

Quite frankly, I was having a discussion about this very topic elsewhere, which to this day is very relevant, very important.

Seriously...get real.
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Old 05-27-2008, 04:53 PM
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And by the way...

Your mother.
LOL.

You keep winning the keyboard battles.
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