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03-29-2008, 01:05 PM
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I do not think you should jump to judgement to soon.
The new IHQ leaders are more apt to work with Gamma Zeta than the ones before. I know who you are refering to and I understand where you are coming from.
From seeing this on the UMASS web site, I would figure it is a good sign. If it is going to happen, this would be a good time to rally the Alums once again.
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03-29-2008, 04:24 PM
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Tom, why should I bother to rally the Alums once again?
I ALREADY DID IT ONCE AND NOTHING GOT DONE!!!
We HAD the MONEY in place, we HAD the VOLUNTEERS in place, and all we got was a "no thanks".
Well ya know what? In that time there have been NUMEROUS expansions by OTHER FRATERNITIES.
So I want to know, was it an inside job? Was our HQ to inept to get the facts for themselves? Do they have any idea about recolonizations?
I guess LXA nationally has been doing SO DAMN WELL, that we wouldn't need another chapter. Our recruitment numbers are SKYROCKETING so that we wouldn't need another 30-40 guys. It's not like we've had numerous chapter closings this past decade. Ya, LXA definately doesn't need another chapter.
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03-29-2008, 04:39 PM
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Returning to schools
I think that there is a commitment to returning to campuses now. California will see three colonizations within the next 18 months or so: UCLA, UC Santa Barbara, and Berkeley. All fine academic schools where we should (and do) want to be. I don't know where U Mass falls into the pecking order but it would seem to be a school where we would want to be at as well.
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03-29-2008, 07:11 PM
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Hey everyone,
Well its been awhile since ive posted up here, but i have been keeping up with whats going on.
Anyway, i was sitting here thinking about this little situation and i think i understand where GZ is coming from, it must be awful dissapointing to do all of that work and get things to IHQs specifications as far as having Alumni, Volunteers, Money, etc and then nothing ever coming of it.
But, now it seems that Nationals is finally actually interested, and whatever mistakes were made in the past regarding Gamma Zeta should in my opinion be forgiven/grudges dropped. After all we are a Brotherhood of helpig each other, and eventhough people make mistakes at some point we should forgive them and move forward.
It appears to me that there might have been a possible situation a couple of years back concering Gamma Zeta, but with new people in place running our organization, it looks like we are making postive steps forward, especially in this particular case.
Now GZ, i see you keep asking the same question concerning the recolonization of Gamma Zeta, but do you really think ayone form Naionals is ever going to own up to the scenarios you mentioned above?
I think Gamma Zeta should take the oppurtunity now and run with, prove IHQ wrong about UMass and their unsupportable Greek System. With Nationals now willing, this is the oppurtune time to make Gamma Zeta extraordinary and then SHOW the yall were right all along.
In ZAX
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03-29-2008, 07:47 PM
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Trey, I have already proved them wrong YEARS ago. I have already shown that I was right all along.
I am not concerned for Gamma Zeta as much as I am about a possible institutional flaw in how HQ recolonizes.
We're not talking 15, 20 years ago, but 3-5.
Think about this for a second:
Here we had a situation where several of us alumni demonstrated that we had the people in place.
There were new and old fraternities being colonized at the university.
One of which was colonized in LESS THAN A SEMESTER and had enough people to live in our old house.
But...........HQ did nothing, knowing this.
I'm don't care about what happened in the past with Gamma Zeta.
What I DO CARE about is the numerous OTHER scenarios that HQ is ignoring/doesn't care about.
How do we know this isn't happening nationwide?
I think we need to know what happened and how do we fix it!!!!
Just "moving on" doesn't fix the problem.
I'm not holding any ill will or grudges. I never had. I just wanted the truth to come out.
"but do you really think ayone form Naionals is ever going to own up to the scenarios you mentioned above?"
No, they won't. That's where WE come in. WE need to hold them accountable. WE need to make sure they are doing their job.
It's kind of funny. Just a few years ago, someone from HQ told us group of alumnis that "there will never be a LXA at Umass ever again" and "the Umass greek system is dead".
How many times did this happen, or is STILL happening across this country?
There is a problem here that needs to be addressed. Not for Gamma Zeta. But for our ENTIRE fraternity.
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03-29-2008, 09:01 PM
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Like i said i understand where yu are coming from and i would probably feel the same way.
My thoughts on GZ is this: it appears as if someone had a long standing grudge against your chapter, and it seems with some new heads in place, they started to listen.
I think what has happened is the person who held the grudge is no longer there, or we got some people in officer positions with backbones and dont just make a decision based from their golf buddies, but are actually wanting to help us out.
I know our chapter was/is struggling on a campus thats not very welcoming to a "white" fraternity, however we have already been sent some help from HQ. So i do believe they are there to help out. Like i sad your situation looks like one of a personal vendetta.
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