The REAL Housewifes of Orange County

[epchick]

Originally Posted by HBADPi

I think its interesting to see some of the differences on how they spend their money. Most of the OC women's kids didnt really do much with their lives, went to public school even though they had money, and they would rather give them new cars than encourage college. Whereas all the NYC housewive's kids go to private school or they have mentioned how important education is.

How do you figure that? I'm curious (and i dont mean it to be sarcastic, i'm truly interested). What's the difference between private vs public school? Just because you go to a public school doesn't mean you are less likely to go to college.

All the NYC women have children that are 15 and below, so you can't say all those kids will go to college. True there are some OC kids who didn't go to college, but that happens everywhere. Brianna is in school, so is Michael. Shane aspires to be a baseball player, and from what it seems like he's doing pretty well. Cara is in school (so who cares that she didn't get accepted to USC or UCLA? That doesn't negate the fact that's she going to a pretty darn good school). I'm pretty sure Josh said something about going to college, and aren't Lauri's step-kids barely out of high school? I know McKenzie is younger than Ashley.

I do agree that the OC and NYC women think of money in different ways. The OC women are more "materialistic"--they want to buy expensive things, purses, cars, clothes, boobs---while the NYC women use money to hang over people's heads.

I kinda disagree with you all saying that the NYC women care more about charity, I think the only one that truly cares about charity is Bethenny. Going to charity and fundraiser events is just an opportunity to climb the social ladder. I honestly respect people more if they decided not to give to charity rather to the people who give to charity so they can have a "look at me, I gave 1 million to so-and-so charity so now i'm popular, love me cause now i can have friends and parties to go to and i'm not a wallflower anymore" attitude.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by epchick

How do you figure that? I'm curious (and i dont mean it to be sarcastic, i'm truly interested). What's the difference between private vs public school? Just because you go to a public school doesn't mean you are less likely to go to college.

All the NYC women have children that are 15 and below, so you can't say all those kids will go to college. True there are some OC kids who didn't go to college, but that happens everywhere. Brianna is in school, so is Michael. Shane aspires to be a baseball player, and from what it seems like he's doing pretty well. Cara is in school (so who cares that she didn't get accepted to USC or UCLA? That doesn't negate the fact that's she going to a pretty darn good school). I'm pretty sure Josh said something about going to college, and aren't Lauri's step-kids barely out of high school? I know McKenzie is younger than Ashley.

I do agree that the OC and NYC women think of money in different ways. The OC women are more "materialistic"--they want to buy expensive things, purses, cars, clothes, boobs---while the NYC women use money to hang over people's heads.

I kinda disagree with you all saying that the NYC women care more about charity, I think the only one that truly cares about charity is Bethenny. Going to charity and fundraiser events is just an opportunity to climb the social ladder. I honestly respect people more if they decided not to give to charity rather to the people who give to charity so they can have a "look at me, I gave 1 million to so-and-so charity so now i'm popular, love me cause now i can have friends and parties to go to and i'm not a wallflower anymore" attitude.

Yeah, there are a lot of people who would say that Cal is a better school than UCLA, and MOST would say that it's better than USC. I'm amazed that she got in to Cal but was rejected by USC.

I had the same thought as you regarding the NY women's charity events. I don't think they go to them because they believe in the charity - they go to them because they're social events and things that Society go to.

One thing goes for both of these shows' women: they may have all the money in the world, but most of them look and act like trash. Bethanny and LuAnn in NY look nice and are OK, but the OC women look like they're trying to desperately recapture their 20s, and some of the NYC women have way outdated and unflattering hair. And most of them prove that money doesn't buy class.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by HBADPi

I think its interesting to see some of the differences on how they spend their money. Most of the OC women's kids didnt really do much with their lives, went to public school even though they had money, and they would rather give them new cars than encourage college. Whereas all the NYC housewive's kids go to private school or they have mentioned how important education is.

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

I had the same thought as you regarding the NY women's charity events. I don't think they go to them because they believe in the charity - they go to them because they're social events and things that Society go to.

One thing goes for both of these shows' women: they may have all the money in the world, but most of them look and act like trash. ... And most of them prove that money doesn't buy class.

I'm pretty sure the private school thing (and not just ANY private school, but the ones that require you to be on waiting lists from conception) is just as much a Society thing as attending charity events. Because private schools are just as dime a dozen asa public schools but only a portion of them mean anything when it comes to college admissions. Not that i'm an expert, but i've met many of private school grads who probably would've fared the same in public school.

And in my experience, private schools get reps under three categories - how whore-y the girls are, how awesome the sports teams are, or how much money you need to get in. Which is essentially what colleges do. private HS leads into private college which lead into more private circles, social, professional or otherwise.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by tld221

I'm pretty sure the private school thing (and not just ANY private school, but the ones that require you to be on waiting lists from conception) is just as much a Society thing as attending charity events. Because private schools are just as dime a dozen asa public schools but only a portion of them mean anything when it comes to college admissions. Not that i'm an expert, but i've met many of private school grads who probably would've fared the same in public school.

And in my experience, private schools get reps under three categories - how whore-y the girls are, how awesome the sports teams are, or how much money you need to get in. Which is essentially what colleges do. private HS leads into private college which lead into more private circles, social, professional or otherwise.

It's so silly, because a good portion of kids at private universities went to public high schools, and a lot of kids from public high schools go on to private colleges. Myself being one. Maybe the public schools close to where these women live in NYC are not quality schools? If that's the case, I get it. But I really don't understand why most people spend so much money putting their kids in a private, "elite" kindegarten or nursery school.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

It's so silly, because a good portion of kids at private universities went to public high schools, and a lot of kids from public high schools go on to private colleges. Myself being one. Maybe the public schools close to where these women live in NYC are not quality schools? If that's the case, I get it. But I really don't understand why most people spend so much money putting their kids in a private, "elite" kindegarten or nursery school.

I hear you, being that NYC has some of of the greatest HS. but whatever works i guess.

And i agree, spending thousands on private kindergarten/nursery school is silly, however those beginning years (K-3) are so vital to the kid's success afterwards. I suppose if you get it into the kid's head from the beginning that school is serious business, the message will stick, especially if you keep them in said environment.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

It's so silly, because a good portion of kids at private universities went to public high schools, and a lot of kids from public high schools go on to private colleges. Myself being one. Maybe the public schools close to where these women live in NYC are not quality schools? If that's the case, I get it. But I really don't understand why most people spend so much money putting their kids in a private, "elite" kindegarten or nursery school.

Public HIGH schools in NYC, even in the neighborhoods these women are living in, are kind of hit-or-miss. There are approximately 6 public high schools in New York City that are constantly ranked among the top schools in America, and that regularly send their graduates to Ivy-caliber colleges. That said, those 6 schools are very, very difficult to get into. The 10-15 top private schools are very selective as well, but your odds of getting into one of those is higher than getting into Stuyvesant or Bronx Sci because of the money factor.

NYC schools just aren't the same as they are anywhere else. Most cities in the country, and definitely in suburban areas, you really can send your child to the neighborhood school and guarantee an excellent education that would prepare them for the top schools in the country. Here? Not so much.

[ZTAMich]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Public HIGH schools in NYC, even in the neighborhoods these women are living in, are kind of hit-or-miss. There are approximately 6 public high schools in New York City that are constantly ranked among the top schools in America, and that regularly send their graduates to Ivy-caliber colleges. That said, those 6 schools are very, very difficult to get into. The 10-15 top private schools are very selective as well, but your odds of getting into one of those is higher than getting into Stuyvesant or Bronx Sci because of the money factor.

NYC schools just aren't the same as they are anywhere else. Most cities in the country, and definitely in suburban areas, you really can send your child to the neighborhood school and guarantee an excellent education that would prepare them for the top schools in the country. Here? Not so much.

Oh city schools! Is it bad that as an employee of one of the not that great public schools I've already decided my kids will commute with me and go to the Catholic school across the street from my school?

And don't even get me started on why the most inexperienced teachers are at the most difficult/worst public schools....

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

...they go to them because they're social events and things that Society go to.

One thing goes for both of these shows' women: they may have all the money in the world, but most of them look and act like trash. Bethanny and LuAnn in NY look nice and are OK, but the OC women look like they're trying to desperately recapture their 20s, and some of the NYC women have way outdated and unflattering hair. And most of them prove that money doesn't buy class.

Bingo.