Tiers in The SEC

UTLonghorn2012 · #1 03-24-2008, 09:28 PM

Speaking of drugs, has anyone seen "Reefer Madness" from back in the twenties? Hillarious stuff.

But yeah the anti-drug movement in the US got started with the same temperence societies that the anti-alcohol movement did. However, race was a big factor. They did not want "foreign" drugs influencing their children, and they particularly did not want teenage girls to fall under the influence of "foreign" drug lords.

Thanks to having US History class with an ex-hippie, we learned these things in school!

PhiGam · #2 03-24-2008, 09:31 PM

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Speaking of drugs, has anyone seen "Reefer Madness" from back in the twenties? Hillarious stuff.

But yeah the anti-drug movement in the US got started with the same temperence societies that the anti-alcohol movement did. However, race was a big factor. They did not want "foreign" drugs influencing their children, and they particularly did not want teenage girls to fall under the influence of "foreign" drug lords.

Thanks to having US History class with an ex-hippie, we learned these things in school!

It makes sense, personally I would prefer to make everything legal so that the government could tax it. To collect any kind of government assistance, however, you would be subject to random drug screening when you went to pick up your check. If somebody is able to use drugs and still be a productive member of society then there really isn't a problem with it.

DSTCHAOS · #3 03-24-2008, 09:50 PM

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It makes sense, personally I would prefer to make everything legal so that the government could tax it. To collect any kind of government assistance, however, you would be subject to random drug screening when you went to pick up your check. If somebody is able to use drugs and still be a productive member of society then there really isn't a problem with it.

The government can control the drug trade a lot more than it has.

However, the government arguably makes more money from the illegal drug trade than it would if drugs were legal and taxable. Drug profit is something the government would never admit to but I wish the IRS could REALLY audit the US government (and other countries' governments could be audited). The government has its hand in everything.

If drugs are legal and taxable, and you claim that if someone can be productive they should be able to use drugs, why should people on government assistance not be able to ride the white horse, too? This is where the -isms get stronger if you make those kinds of disclaimers. I'd rather drugs just be illegal PERIOD and for myself and other concerned citizens to spend our time highlighting the hypocrisy of people who pretend that certain illegal drugs and drug users are OKAY.

SWTXBelle · #4 03-24-2008, 10:01 PM

Read The Devil's Picnic for a fascinating look at cultural (food and drug) taboos and the politics behind them.

PhiGam · #5 03-24-2008, 10:07 PM

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If drugs are legal and taxable, and you claim that if someone can be productive they should be able to use drugs, why should people on government assistance not be able to ride the white horse, too? This is where the -isms get stronger if you make those kinds of disclaimers. I'd rather drugs just be illegal PERIOD and for myself and other concerned citizens to spend our time highlighting the hypocrisy of people who pretend that certain illegal drugs and drug users are OKAY.

As I said before, I feel that if somebody can be a productive member of society and still use drugs then there isn't a problem, at least not one that the government should involve itself in. I have a problem with taxpayers money being used to fund drug use, drugs are a luxury.

macallan25 · #6 03-24-2008, 10:11 PM

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As I said before, I feel that if somebody can be a productive member of society and still use drugs then there isn't a problem, at least not one that the government should involve itself in. I have a problem with taxpayers money being used to fund drug use, drugs are a luxury.

Gotta agree here. If someone wants to stick a needle in their arm.......that's their decision. We shouldn't be paying for the Government to babysit them.

DSTCHAOS · #7 03-24-2008, 10:19 PM

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As I said before, I feel that if somebody can be a productive member of society and still use drugs then there isn't a problem, at least not one that the government should involve itself in. I have a problem with taxpayers money being used to fund drug use, drugs are a luxury.

Gotcha.

Drugs aren't a personal luxury as far as I'm concerned but I know they are to some people.

But they are only a personal "luxury" as long as they don't result in addiction, family problems and other social ills, health problems, and criminality, right? The problem is that we can't predict when recreation becomes addiction. Drugs should remain illegal because when they become legal, the government can not regulate its use and abuse -- just like how cigarette and alcohol addictions are causing health problems and social ills (to a much lesser extent, criminality) but the government is acting helpless.

macallan25 · #8 03-24-2008, 10:09 PM

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I'd rather drugs just be illegal PERIOD and for myself and other concerned citizens to spend our time highlighting the hypocrisy of people who pretend that certain illegal drugs and drug users are OKAY.

Do you believe that none of them are OK because of the simple fact that they are illegal? or are there some other reasons.

I understand a lot of what you are saying but I've got to say........I'd probably be more concerned with someone that smokes a pack a day over someone that smokes a couple bowls every so often.

DSTCHAOS · #9 03-24-2008, 10:12 PM

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Do you believe that none of them are OK because of the simple fact that they are illegal? or are there some other reasons.

All that matters for the purpose of this discussion is that they're illegal.

The other reasons require detail and The Hills is on.

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I understand a lot of what you are saying but I've got to say........I'd probably be more concerned with someone that smokes a pack a day over someone that smokes a couple bowls every so often.

I already talked about cigarettes in this thread. That's a health effect that is very concerning.

But I multitask. Cigarettes are bad and illegal drugs are bad, mmmmmkay.

macallan25 · #10 03-24-2008, 10:14 PM

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All that matters for the purpose of this discussion is that they're illegal.

The other reasons require detail and The Hills is on.

I already talked about cigarettes in this thread. That's a health effect that is very concerning.

But I multitask. Cigarettes are bad and illegal drugs are bad, mmmmmkay.

DSTCHAOS · #11 03-24-2008, 10:20 PM

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Mr. Mackey is the law!

gtdxeric · #12 03-24-2008, 10:31 PM

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It makes sense, personally I would prefer to make everything legal so that the government could tax it. To collect any kind of government assistance, however, you would be subject to random drug screening when you went to pick up your check. If somebody is able to use drugs and still be a productive member of society then there really isn't a problem with it.

Been reading The Onion?

http://www.theonion.com/content/news...gal_if_user_is

PhiGam · #13 03-24-2008, 10:54 PM

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Been reading The Onion?

http://www.theonion.com/content/news...gal_if_user_is

From the article: "Drugs are addictive, and that's true whether you're a ghetto gang member or a Harvard-educated entertainment lawyer," Hutchinson said. "But the cold, hard truth is, if the ghetto kid gets hooked, he isn't going to clean up in a rehab clinic in Palm Springs and maybe even become president, now, is he?

Is it bad that I ACTUALLY agree with this? Because I do.

DSTCHAOS · #14 03-24-2008, 11:11 PM

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Is it bad that I ACTUALLY agree with this? Because I do.

No. I agree, too, and it supports the point that I was making.

Lucky SC · #15 03-25-2008, 01:08 AM

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From the article: "Drugs are addictive, and that's true whether you're a ghetto gang member or a Harvard-educated entertainment lawyer," Hutchinson said. "But the cold, hard truth is, if the ghetto kid gets hooked, he isn't going to clean up in a rehab clinic in Palm Springs and maybe even become president, now, is he?

Is it bad that I ACTUALLY agree with this? Because I do.

where you go to school by the way, i think i might have asked u this already. I feel like u said florida