Tiers in The SEC

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by banditone

What's funny is that no one ever says "blah blah fraternity, the one no one wants to join". Or the like.

I think this is a reflection in the way that sororities do recruitment. A fraternity can target the guys they want and only take those guys without a ton of pressure for not taking 60 of them. And the group overall can be smaller as long as they are financially healthy and it's no big deal.

With sororities, you have to take quota and be at total or it reflects poorly on the group.

ETA: I see Skylark has already said this, but I replied before I read all the way through.

[breathesgelatin]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

I don't think I can give W&L such an easy pass.

The good:
-Almost everyone who goes there comes from a) money, or b) a decent family. Otherwise, why would you even look there?
-The school has many well-to-do southerners, and because it's so small, others will conform in order to "fit in". Just like high school.
-They're ALL conservatives!

I've made more than one visit to the school, and almost everyone I met was obsessed with The Real World, rap music, and pot smoking. But they all wore polo and pearls, so it was OK?
I don't think schools like W&L can be compared to schools 35 times their size.

Interesting. Thanks for your candid response. I actually think your list of "the good" is somewhat inaccurate. Except, not the second one. A good majority (60-70%?) are indeed from money or a decent family (using the sense of the terms that I know you mean. But there are a LOT who are not. At the same time, as you mention most of those who are not conform to the model of those who are.

As for the conservative thing, I think you underestimate the number of liberals at W&L. There are a significant number. Also, a lot of the supposed conservative students are really moderates who just lean a bit conservative. But, again, most of them dress & look like conservatives.

As for the Real World, rap music, and pot-smoking.... LOL. It definitely depends on where you hang out. I don't remember anyone watching the Real World! Rap music is a weird thing definitely, because even the guys in the very "top" groups or whatever definitely listened to rap music. Not sure why that was. Everyone at W&L just seemed to like rap music. I like it too. Everyone seemed to like jam music too (which I can't stand and think is just.... ugh, trashy and awful). Pot-smoking... there were definitely fraternities that had strong reputations for that. It was pretty common I guess, but not as common as rap music. It's another thing I can't stand and think is just 100% trashy (no matter what class you are).

The other big thing about W&L was open parties, so all members of all groups could show up at every other house's parties. Or non-Greeks, for that matter. Which on one level is nice and on the other level created a LOT of security problems.