Politics 2008:The Caucuses and The Dem/Rep Conventions

[SummerChild]

A colleague at work has pointed out that if she cannot run her campaign, i.e., coming to the point of having spent all of the money, how can she run the country. Her campaign has experienced a number of replacements and appears to be a little disorganized - at least just from reading articles in the media. As the "CEO" of her campaign, I wonder if she would the country the same way ... supposedly giving key positions to friends as opposed to those who are really the most experienced. This is alleged as what happened with her campaign manager - for some reason, she picked someone who it is said had no experience running a campaign but that they were good friends. She ended up replacing her with someone else. Does anyone remember the name of the first campaign manager that was replaced in January or so right when HRC almost went broke and had to loan her campaign 5mil?

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Originally Posted by mccoyred

This was my issue from the beginning with Hillary. Even with everything that has come out - pastors, land deals, race card, words vs solutions, SNL, etc - I still believe that Hillary supporters/surrogates/campaign officials have committed the worst offenses.

[TonyB06]

Originally Posted by SummerChild

A colleague at work has pointed out that if she cannot run her campaign, i.e., coming to the point of having spent all of the money, how can she run the country. Her campaign has experienced a number of replacements and appears to be a little disorganized - at least just from reading articles in the media. As the "CEO" of her campaign, I wonder if she would the country the same way ... supposedly giving key positions to friends as opposed to those who are really the most experienced. This is alleged as what happened with her campaign manager - for some reason, she picked someone who it is said had no experience running a campaign but that they were good friends. She ended up replacing her with someone else. Does anyone remember the name of the first campaign manager that was replaced in January or so right when HRC almost went broke and had to loan her campaign 5mil?

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Pat Solis Doyle was her first campaign mgr. and had been her scheduler since 1991, and during the Clinton Administration. Speculation is that there was friction (who's calling the shots?) Mark Penn, strategiest/camp. mgr? and pollster from the Clinton years, some say has emerged as a leading voice.

her current campaign mgr. is Maggie Williams, a black woman, who was her chief of staff when HRC was First Lady.

[TonyB06]

Just watched Barack Obama's "race speech" on streaming video. As political stagecraft, he hit the right notes -- elevating it from a discussion on his former pastor's excerpted comments to a broader discussion on how both sides of the issue, Black and white, have arrived at this racial impasse.

Politically and contextually, , he moved the issue to more favorable ground, a smart move. Polling usually lags events by 7-21 days so the numbers may flutctuate for a while yet, but this speech, I think, will help him get past the issue.

[Little32]

^^Do you have a link?

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by TonyB06

Just watched Barack Obama's "race speech" on streaming video. As political stagecraft, he hit the right notes -- elevating it from a discussion on his former pastor's excerpted comments to a broader discussion on how both sides of the issue, Black and white, have arrived at this racial impasse.

Politically and contextually, , he moved the issue to more favorable ground, a smart move. Polling usually lags events by 7-21 days so the numbers may flutctuate for a while yet, but this speech, I think, will help him get past the issue.

Not for some/many. It's sad but there is still a great deal of ignorance surrounding the history and current state of race relations in this country. Many still have no clue as to how we arrived at this point and how the past continues to influence the present and future. And as we all know, if we do not understand the past...

[rhoyaltempest]

Obama's speech in video and text is on his website:

http://my.barackobama.com/hisownwords

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by TonyB06

Just watched Barack Obama's "race speech" on streaming video. As political stagecraft, he hit the right notes -- elevating it from a discussion on his former pastor's excerpted comments to a broader discussion on how both sides of the issue, Black and white, have arrived at this racial impasse.

Politically and contextually, , he moved the issue to more favorable ground, a smart move. Polling usually lags events by 7-21 days so the numbers may flutctuate for a while yet, but this speech, I think, will help him get past the issue.

I will be glad when the new polls come out. The current polls which were taken DURING the whole flack show his support has dropped. However, I am confident that his numbers will rise again.

I must say that they threw the kitchen sink at him. I am sure that there is nothing else they could possibly have to throw.

[Little32]

While I am still not entirely comfortable with the way that he characterized Rev. Wright, I am absolutely amazed at the commentary that has come out of this. I am amazed--and I try not to deal in hyperbole.

Somehow, the anger and resentment that blacks often feel is suddenly palatable and understandable to these non-black commentators--at least for now. I am absolutely amazed.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by Little32

While I am still not entirely comfortable with the way that he characterized Rev. Wright, I am absolutely amazed at the commentary that has come out of this. I am amazed--and I try not to deal in hyperbole.

Somehow, the anger and resentment that blacks often feel is suddenly palatable and understandable to these non-black commentators--at least for now. I am absolutely amazed.

Not according to everyone. Go to FOX News. They have taken 'selective hearing' to a whole different level.

[Little32]

Fox "News" Network doesn't count--no seriously, it doesn't count.

I can not recall such recognition and frank discussion about not race, per se, but about the anger and resentment that many blacks experience as a result of the social climate of this country (and it is more than the usual suspects chiming in to discuss it).

If Obama can give a speech that can engender this sort of response...


Just a sidebar...I am generally angry (I am not a victim, but I am often angry; and I am much younger than Wright's generation).

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

Not according to everyone. Go to FOX News. They have taken 'selective hearing' to a whole different level.

Ever since Fox HANDED Bush the election in 2000, they have had no credibility in politics. In fact, they are protesting the fact that Obama has not appeared on O'Reilly's show even though he has appeared on all the other networks. If I were him, I wouldn't grace then with my presence either. They are the most biased and partisan of all news sources that I know of!

[southernelle25]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

Not according to everyone. Go to FOX News. They have taken 'selective hearing' to a whole different level.

Indeed, willful ignorance at its best. They were even complaining that he read from a teleprompter.... if that is not reaching, I don't know what is.