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03-17-2008, 09:44 PM
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One NEVER pulls a gun on some one they do not intend to shoot... That is the first mantra taught with gun safety...
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LOL. Tell that to the people who pull guns but aren't prepared to actually shoot. Also tell that to the people who are too shaken to pull the guns in the first place.
But as long as you know that the gun in your home is a response and not a deterrent, good luck to you and yours.
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03-17-2008, 09:49 PM
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LOL. Tell that to the people who pull guns but aren't prepared to actually shoot. Also tell that to the people who are too shaken to pull the guns in the first place.
But as long as you know that the gun in your home is a response and not a deterrent, good luck to you and yours.
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First, one doesn't flinch when holding a lethal weapon. That is where the training comes in...
Second, I agree, guns are a response to an action, NEVER a deterrent. Citizens have to know their rights when they used such weapons as these in the thought of self-defense...
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03-17-2008, 09:55 PM
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First, one doesn't flinch when holding a lethal weapon. That is where the training comes in...
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There goes that "one" again.
"One" would floss and brush every night because that's what dentists say. However, I keep meeting grown people with money and health insurance who have swollen gums, dingy teeth, and smelly breath.
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Second, I agree, guns are a response to an action, NEVER a deterrent. Citizens have to know their rights when they used such weapons as these in the thought of self-defense...
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Right.
So just make sure you're actually home IF a would-be burglar ever enters your home. Actually, I'd rather NOT be home IF a burglar enters my home, but that's just me.
And since you've been trained, you know to announce that you have a gun versus trying to do a law enforcement infiltration on a burglar. And you know that there are laws regarding the difference between defending your home and jumping the gun or vigilante justice. Just making sure gun owners are as safe and law abiding in practice as their gun training teaches.
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03-17-2008, 10:08 PM
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There goes that "one" again.
"One" would floss and brush every night because that's what dentists say. However, I keep meeting grown people with money and health insurance who have swollen gums, dingy teeth, and smelly breath. 
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I do not see your connection between the use of a 3rd person pronoun, dental care and how to handle a lethal weapon? Your point is what? You want to be right in this one? Fine. You are right. You are not living where I live.
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Right.
So just make sure you're actually home IF a would-be burglar ever enters your home. Actually, I'd rather NOT be home IF a burglar enters my home, but that's just me.
And since you've been trained, you know to announce that you have a gun versus trying to do a law enforcement infiltration on a burglar. And you know that there are laws regarding the difference between defending your home and jumping the gun or vigilante justice. Just making sure gun owners are as safe and law abiding in practice as their gun training teaches.
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Currently, I do not work, so I am at home most of the time. It is strange for this kind of activity the go on in my neighborhood, but how is the concern for my safety going to protect me other than being prepared? One way to be prepared is examining what my second amendment rights are, and what they are not. I have the right to protect myself and my property on my legal domicile. Anyone who I have not welcomed nor invited are not allowed to enter without my consent.
What is wrong with that?
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03-17-2008, 10:17 PM
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Your point is what? You want to be right in this one? Fine. You are right. You are not living where I live.
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Don't make this personal. This thread isn't about you. You chose to share what's going on in your neighborhood that has you afraid and emotional. But this discussion happens everyday so don't get sensitive. I say the same thing I'm saying to you to people everyday regardless of who they are and where they live.
My point is that you are typing in theoretical language and I'm talking about what often happens in practice. Until you actually have pulled the gun and shot it at a human, it is difficult to say what you would actually do versus what "one" does or does not do as taught in gun safety classes. People are taught all sorts of things that they don't actually apply.
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Currently, I do not work, so I am at home most of the time.
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Okay.
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03-17-2008, 11:16 PM
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Don't make this personal. This thread isn't about you. You chose to share what's going on in your neighborhood that has you afraid and emotional. But this discussion happens everyday so don't get sensitive. I say the same thing I'm saying to you to people everyday regardless of who they are and where they live.
My point is that you are typing in theoretical language and I'm talking about what often happens in practice. Until you actually have pulled the gun and shot it at a human, it is difficult to say what you would actually do versus what "one" does or does not do as taught in gun safety classes. People are taught all sorts of things that they don't actually apply.
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But you have not shot an another human being either, unless there is a different lifestyle we all have yet to know about?
And unless you have done it, you are right, we do not know what will happen until we are faced with that situation unless folks are avid gun users, i.e. hunter, police officer, military or just coming off of tours in Iraq/Afghanistan.
Those are the folks I would love to hear what their perspective is...
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03-17-2008, 11:37 PM
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But you have not shot an another human being either, unless there is a different lifestyle we all have yet to know about? 
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Uh...yeah....
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And unless you have done it, you are right, we do not know what will happen until we are faced with that situation....
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Yep. Good luck.
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Those are the folks I would love to hear what their perspective is...
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I see what you mean but what would their perspectives accomplish beyond some general advice or an FYI? Some agree with what Peppy and I said. A lot of this stuff is based on something more objective than individuals' experiences.
I don't have a problem with law abiding citizines owning guns, in general, but it also doesn't accomplish what many people think/claim that it does. When I read scared people talking gun advocate stuff, as a result of a rash of burglaries in their neighborhood, it makes me wary.
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