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03-15-2008, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk
I just honestly wasn't aware of a decent Sig Ep chapter anywhere in an SEC school, including Florida.
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I've heard good things about the chapters at Ole Miss, Miss St. and USC.
ps. aren't you from arkansas?
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03-16-2008, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bowsandtoes
I've heard good things about the chapters at Ole Miss, Miss St. and USC.
ps. aren't you from arkansas?
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yes, he goes to arkansas.
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03-16-2008, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by banditone
yes, he goes to arkansas.
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Yep. I missed it, I guess.
bows goes to...Auburn was it?
It's been awhile.
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03-16-2008, 10:40 PM
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IMO, the real danger of tiers on Greek Chat is that the groups really do more of the selecting rather than most of the people going through. As a PNM you hope that you'll get a bid from a group that you like, but you don't have much control over it other than screwing it up.
It's probably a little better for guys since they can get multiple bids, but since you have no way of knowing how desirable the person asking or reading the read is in the eyes of the groups, what good does it really do to break it down?
And often times the really top tier groups are probably closed to random folks asking on the internet. If you don't already have connections in the chapter, good luck.
ETA: anyone really rushing will figure it out within one round of parties.
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03-18-2008, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by UGAalum94
IMO, the real danger of tiers on Greek Chat is that the groups really do more of the selecting rather than most of the people going through. As a PNM you hope that you'll get a bid from a group that you like, but you don't have much control over it other than screwing it up.
It's probably a little better for guys since they can get multiple bids, but since you have no way of knowing how desirable the person asking or reading the read is in the eyes of the groups, what good does it really do to break it down?
And often times the really top tier groups are probably closed to random folks asking on the internet. If you don't already have connections in the chapter, good luck.
ETA: anyone really rushing will figure it out within one round of parties.
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I know that here we only have a total of about 5 hours during official rush to decide which houses you want to attempt to get a bid from. This is a problem because 1/2 of our houses are on campus and 1/2 of them are in a separate development. Its nice to know which houses are respected by sororities and fellow fraternities so that you don't waste your time during rush.
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03-25-2008, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bowsandtoes
I've heard good things about the chapters at Ole Miss, Miss St. and USC.
ps. aren't you from arkansas?
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The Sig Ep Chapter here just got a house, they are getting there. But the Southern Fraternities like SAE, KA, Sig Nu, ATO, and Kappa Sig really won't align themselves with them.
I dunno if they do this at other schools, but the big fraternities here like to get together and throw even bigger parties between them all. That way they have more money, can buy a better venue, and get a better band.
They usually leave Sig Ep out of the loop as far as i'm aware, they got a decent amount of guys from across the mason dixie and thats looked down upon here by most fraternities.
At more then half the houses they will show you the door if you were to say you were from Michigan without letting you speak.
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04-15-2008, 09:56 PM
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Alright, who here posts on JuicyCampus?
Haha, my list from page 1 was copied and pasted to one of the UF threads over there!
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04-17-2008, 12:04 AM
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To PhiGam
Thanks for your kind remarks about the Pikes and the house.
Two things:
First, my understanding is that your alumni are conducting a capital campaign to buy the "clubhouse". That option is there for Grove fraternities living in non-equity houses. I assume you'll bulldoze it and build an impressive house of your own design, connected to the gothic housing building. I hope you do it; Phi Gam has done really well since moving to the Grove. I don't kow what's going to happen with those two empty lots. ATO alumni tell me they're going to build, but they won't be back on campus until 2009 and I don't know how long it will take them to grow large enough to support a 60-man house. Who knows what will happen with the Sig Eps? They had already begun construction when they got suspended. I don't even know what the University's position is on their chapter.
Second, with respect, I don't understand your including KA in the first tier. I like the KAs; I thikn they're good guys. But they don't "do" anything. Nothing. They compete in the small fraternity intramural league and they don't do particulaly well. They have no campus leaders, varsity athletes, high profile members. From what I've seen, Phi Sig and Delts are far more aggressive, larger, more athletic and more popular. Again, I don't dislike KA. I just don't see them as a group to be anything special, and I don't think the top sororities do either.
Sigma Chi I understand. They don't "do" anything either, but they have a big chapter and they're popular with the top sororities.
Good luck to you in pursuing a new house. You should be able to raise the money and buy the clubhouse, and that will lead the way for other chapters to do the same.
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04-17-2008, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Firehouse
Thanks for your kind remarks about the Pikes and the house.
Two things:
First, my understanding is that your alumni are conducting a capital campaign to buy the "clubhouse". That option is there for Grove fraternities living in non-equity houses. I assume you'll bulldoze it and build an impressive house of your own design, connected to the gothic housing building. I hope you do it; Phi Gam has done really well since moving to the Grove. I don't kow what's going to happen with those two empty lots. ATO alumni tell me they're going to build, but they won't be back on campus until 2009 and I don't know how long it will take them to grow large enough to support a 60-man house. Who knows what will happen with the Sig Eps? They had already begun construction when they got suspended. I don't even know what the University's position is on their chapter.
Second, with respect, I don't understand your including KA in the first tier. I like the KAs; I thikn they're good guys. But they don't "do" anything. Nothing. They compete in the small fraternity intramural league and they don't do particulaly well. They have no campus leaders, varsity athletes, high profile members. From what I've seen, Phi Sig and Delts are far more aggressive, larger, more athletic and more popular. Again, I don't dislike KA. I just don't see them as a group to be anything special, and I don't think the top sororities do either.
Sigma Chi I understand. They don't "do" anything either, but they have a big chapter and they're popular with the top sororities.
Good luck to you in pursuing a new house. You should be able to raise the money and buy the clubhouse, and that will lead the way for other chapters to do the same.
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ROTFLMAO. And isn't being popular what it is all about?
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04-17-2008, 12:11 PM
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Get involved in student gov., philanthropies, etc.
OR
Sit on your ass with hot sorority girls.
I want to be in house B!
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04-17-2008, 12:28 PM
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You've got it wrong Banditone; at least it's wrong here. On this campus all the top fraternities are considered to be such because the most impressive guys are drawn to them. All the top fraternities are paired with the top sororities. Some of the top houses, like Sigma Chi, pretty much ignore everything but social. No one cares; they're good. Others, like Delt and Phi Sig, are jock houses. No one cares; they're good and tied in with top sororities.
No one here defines a "top fraternity" by their commitment to philanthropy. Some do community service; some don't. The only defining characteristic for the top fraternities here is the quality of members and overall chapter size.
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