National sororities that pioneered on a campus

oldu · #1 03-14-2008, 10:12 AM

I do think size is a fairly important factor at arriving at how we rank a particular group (by whatever standard you choose), especially on a given campus. After all, the largest is either the most popular (by the number who choose to join) or the best at retaining members (smartest, happiest, best adjusted?). On the national level it is a little different. By most people's standards the largest is not necessarily the best; however, it is unlikely any group could be considered the best if its number of chapters was substantially smaller than the norm. My own bias is more likely to note where those chapters at located. I'd much rather have a good chapter at University of Illinois-Champaign than Southern Illinois-Edwardsville. In defense of my many comparisons, I think it is interesting at how different the top group is in each of the comparisons, indicating that there are many standards by which we can judge how well our particular group stands up against others.

33girl · #2 03-14-2008, 10:20 AM

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By most people's standards the largest is not necessarily the best; however, it is unlikely any group could be considered the best if its number of chapters was substantially smaller than the norm. My own bias is more likely to note where those chapters at located. I'd much rather have a good chapter at University of Illinois-Champaign than Southern Illinois-Edwardsville.

Now see, this is where you start to tick people off, with crap like this. What's wrong with SIUE? Do you agree with the sororities and fraternities that keep open subpar chapters just so they can say they're at [insert Ivy/SEC/Big 10 school here] or so they can say they have the most chapters? I mean, it's really pretty easy to have a lot of chapters if you don't care about their composition.

If you're really doing this as a "service" just present the data, and skip the commentary.

oldu · #3 03-14-2008, 10:41 AM

Damn! I just can't keep everybody happy.

NutBrnHair · #4 03-14-2008, 10:53 AM

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Damn! I just can't keep everybody happy.

Hang in there, oldu!

DSTCHAOS · #5 03-14-2008, 11:33 AM

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Damn! I just can't keep everybody happy.

You don't have to. You choose to type and people choose to respond.

But the commentary does skew your "data" and how it will be received. Researcher commentary is often necessary but it has to be based on research or supportable conclusions and not just "I just can't imagine a strong Greek system....."

ladygreek · #6 03-14-2008, 12:16 PM

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My own bias is more likely to note where those chapters at located. I'd much rather have a good chapter at University of Illinois-Champaign than Southern Illinois-Edwardsville.

what about SIUC?

TSteven · #7 03-14-2008, 04:06 PM

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what about SIUC?

Go Salukis!

NutBrnHair · #8 03-14-2008, 04:17 PM

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Go Salukis!

TSteven, I think you're lost. Please post in the Mascots thread.

TSteven · #9 03-14-2008, 05:24 PM

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TSteven, I think you're lost. Please post in the Mascots thread.

I think I may very well be. But in my defense, it is March Madness and I've got college ball on the mind. Plus I am stuck at work, reduced to watching the SEC Tournament via the web, and getting more and more anxious about Kentucky's game later this evening.

breathesgelatin · #10 03-18-2008, 06:54 PM

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Go Salukis!

That is the cutest mascot EVAR. I want to transfer there.

I am not even joking.

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I'm personally waiting for an NPCs with the highest percentage of engaged senior eboard members in Wyoming in 1954 thread.

You jest, but I have seen the category "chapter on a campus with the highest percentage of engaged seniors" used to rank chapters. More than once. Actually, quite frequently when I was an undergrad. FOR REALS.

tld221 · #11 03-19-2008, 12:13 AM

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You jest, but I have seen the category "chapter on a campus with the highest percentage of engaged seniors" used to rank chapters. More than once. Actually, quite frequently when I was an undergrad. FOR REALS.

and what purpose does this serve?

ForeverRoses · #12 03-19-2008, 08:30 AM

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and what purpose does this serve?

Well, if you go to college specifically to get your MRS degree, it might matter to you...

breathesgelatin · #13 03-19-2008, 01:10 PM

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and what purpose does this serve?

Well, I think the idea was that if a sorority has a lot of nice, classy women that behave nicely and don't act like big crazy hookers or whatever, then guys will want to marry them. And that getting engaged was a sign that fraternities on campus or guys on campus generally thought the group was full of nice women that they wanted to date, which = popularity.

I've also seen it used more strictly, as in "percentage of seniors engaged to members of this 'top' fraternity."

Don't get me wrong, I actually strongly, STRONGLY disagree with this idea. But this was how the idea was put forth by those I saw advocating it.

sigmadiva · #14 03-14-2008, 05:29 PM

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I do think size is a fairly important factor ....

I'm going to assume that you are a guy, so, yeah, size is important to you.

But, seriously, I think your assumption that 'bigger = best' is a bit skewed. Some people purposely look for the "medium" or "smaller" org, school, group, church, whatever, because they feel that it is the best fit for them. And that is really the point - find what is best for you, whether it is considered "big" or not.

All in all oldu, you are just one person who is interested in only one aspect of greek life. If it makes you happy to do what you do, go for it.