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03-11-2008, 09:38 PM
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It is funny to me that when someone says they are offended about a post and says why, others jump on the person about being offended instead of just saying "so noted." It sounds like me doth think ye protest too much and feel guilty about the offense.
Just like when we protested about the lack of inclusion of NPHC groups in these "statistics", we were told by some posters every reason why not. But now oldu has become a little more sensitive about it has sought to remedy the offense.
If Clio is offended that is her perception and she has the right to express it. And btw, I, too, get a general impression for GC that locals are considered "less than."
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03-11-2008, 09:53 PM
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It is funny to me that when someone says they are offended about a post and says why, others jump on the person about being offended instead of just saying "so noted." It sounds like me doth think ye protest too much and feel guilty about the offense.
Nope - you can be offended by whatever you like. But if you want to say you are offended by something I posted, it needs to be about my post. Not what you read elsewhere on GC, not on a general feeling you have, not on what others have said IRL. That would be the "chip". Hire a therapist if your issues run that deep.
If Clio is offended that is her perception and she has the right to express it. Yes she does - and if we feel she is hijacking a thread by continuing to whine, we have the right to express that, too.
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My overall perception of locals has heretofore been based on the locals on the campuses I attended and worked at. To tell you the truth, none of them have been that impressive. But I know my experience is hardly a representative sample.
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03-11-2008, 10:00 PM
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My overall perception of locals has heretofore been based on the locals on the campuses I attended and worked at. To tell you the truth, none of them have been that impressive. But I know my experience is hardly a representative sample.
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Sounds like I stumbled upon the truth.
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03-11-2008, 10:03 PM
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Sounds like I stumbled upon the truth.
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Hey, that's my experience. But I've always assumed that because my experience is so limited that it is hardly representative. Therefore, I've tried to keep an open mind, and not tar all locals with the same brush. So slam me for not basing my judgement only on my real life experience.
And I've looked in vain for anyone denying anyone the right to his/her opinion.
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03-11-2008, 10:14 PM
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Housing
I attended my school just as Greek housing became a part of Greek life. For the longest time the University said no to sorority houses. Delta Zeta basically just said, "Tough Darts, Farmer" and bought a beautiful Victorian. I think they were punished for a semester or two, but at the end of the day, they had a house, and the rest of the sororities had to play catch up. Delta Zeta still has a gorgeous house - they've added to it over the years. Chi Omega has a lodge, but to tell you the truth they are strong enough that it really doesn't matter that they can't house any girls. Alpha Xi Delta had a real renaissance because they were the first to build a house - it really helped them forge an identity. I'm not as familiar with the Zeta, Delta Gamma and ADPi houses - there is one Victorian that was DG, but is now ADII, Delta Gamma has a house which I've never seen, and Zeta has a nice house near A Xi D. I know AOPi was on campus and at one point had two houses, but for whatever reason they did not last very long. For the last 20 years there has been talk of a Greek Park, but so far it has come to nothing. Many of the older fraternity houses and a few of the sorority houses are in neighborhoods that the University may well need to expand. Our old house is right next to parking lots that used to be the TKE and Kappa Sig houses. Because the Kappa Alpha house is in-between the university and our old house, so far it hasn't been paved over. But I'd be surprised if the KA and old Gamma Phi houses weren't eventually sold to TX State. I would LOVE to see a Greek Park/Village kind of thing, and it may happen someday. The next sorority to come on would, I think, need to be committed to providing housing.
As to how big a part housing plays at TX State - well, the NPCs have been around only since the 60s,(sororities were local before that), and housing has only been a concern since the late 70s. It's tough to say what impact actually buildling a Greek Park/Village would have. Housing is a problem, so it might be that providing housing could positively impact the popularity of Greeks.
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03-11-2008, 10:23 PM
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I attended my school just as Greek housing became a part of Greek life. For the longest time the University said no to sorority houses. Delta Zeta basically just said, "Tough Darts, Farmer" and bought a beautiful Victorian. I think they were punished for a semester or two, but at the end of the day, they had a house, and the rest of the sororities had to play catch up. Delta Zeta still has a gorgeous house - they've added to it over the years. Chi Omega has a lodge, but to tell you the truth they are strong enough that it really doesn't matter that they can't house any girls. Alpha Xi Delta had a real renaissance because they were the first to build a house - it really helped them forge an identity. I'm not as familiar with the Zeta, Delta Gamma and ADPi houses - there is one Victorian that was DG, but is now ADII, Delta Gamma has a house which I've never seen, and Zeta has a nice house near A Xi D. I know AOPi was on campus and at one point had two houses, but for whatever reason they did not last very long. For the last 20 years there has been talk of a Greek Park, but so far it has come to nothing. Many of the older fraternity houses and a few of the sorority houses are in neighborhoods that the University may well need to expand. Our old house is right next to parking lots that used to be the TKE and Kappa Sig houses. Because the Kappa Alpha house is in-between the university and our old house, so far it hasn't been paved over. But I'd be surprised if the KA and old Gamma Phi houses weren't eventually sold to TX State. I would LOVE to see a Greek Park/Village kind of thing, and it may happen someday. The next sorority to come on would, I think, need to be committed to providing housing.
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I miss our house! It was so cozy! My brother was a KA at SWTSU so I remember their house as well. They've been rennovating it (new carpet, wood floors on the first floor, new cabinetry) so I would be said to see it go.
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03-11-2008, 10:26 PM
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Texas State hijack
I've been surprised that KA has continued to put money into that house - cause it sure looks like a sitting duck, surrounded by the campus and all. I would think, given their strong alumni base, they could rebuild if they wanted to.
Hey - I'm going to be on campus next Friday! I'll have to look at it . . .
Does anyone here come from a campus WITHOUT housing?
And oldu - of those campuses which lost systems during the depression, in your opinion was the burden of housing costs a problem?
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