The 2008 presidential field at-a-glance

[jon1856]

R.N.C. Snaps Up Domain Names
Cannotrustclinton.com? clintonisbad.com? At least 25 domain names related to Hillary Rodham Clinton have links to the Republican National Committee: the names were either registered by the R.N.C. last year or showed up on servers the committee uses. Half a dozen seemed to guess at Mrs. Clinton’s eventual running mate, like clintonomalley.com, referring to Gov. Martin O’Malley of Maryland.
The day after Barack Obama won the Iowa caucuses, the R.N.C. snapped up at least 20 domains related to his candidacy. Some of them may signal the party’s future strategy: baracknotready.com and norealexperience.com. The party has also begun preemptively registering domains that could be used to attack John McCain, like mccainamigos.com, voteagainstmccain.com, flipflopmccain.com and hatemccain.com (ihatemccain.com was taken.)
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...-domain-names/

[jon1856]

In Re.: Taxes and Medical records:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200803060007?f=h_popular

http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/8...weet06.article

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/...ap4741632.html

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

To me, it's appealing that the Obamas understand firsthand how much student loans suck. Between my boyfriend and I, we'll have six figures - we both have college and law school loans. The real kicker is that we both went to law school for free and we still have over $100,000 in debt. I feel like Obama is going to understand this a little more than Bill and Hillary, who never really seemed to have issues paying off any loans they had from law school.

When Bill and Hillary graduated from Yale, there was a system where everyone from their class who had taken out loans put them in a common pool, and paid back based on their income. As Hillary says in her book, it was great for them because they were public servants/working for the people right out of school (and yes, law professor at a state school is a public servant to me), but the people who went to big firms and stayed basically subsidized their law educations.

Also, we can't forget that the Clintons' Yale educations were possibly 10-25% of the cost of the Obamas' Harvard ones.

Whether or not the candidate knows the pain of student loans isn't that important to me...people of all socioeconomic backgrounds take them out, and some people pay them off right away, and others stretch out the payments to subsidize their lifestyles. One of our close family friends is a doctor, and 30 years out of med school, she buys a new car and boat every year, but guess what? She's still rocking out the loans (and makes smaller payments than most non-doctors I know).

[LeslieAGD]

Obama needs to start firing some of the people working for him who keep bringing about negative publicity. This is the third story in the last two weeks that I have heard where Obama has had to come out and apologize for the actions and comments of his campaign workers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080307/...hKv7fEpw0E1vAI

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by LeslieAGD

Obama needs to start firing some of the people working for him who keep bringing about negative publicity. This is the third story in the last two weeks that I have heard where Obama has had to come out and apologize for the actions and comments of his campaign workers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080307/...hKv7fEpw0E1vAI

Maybe if we took her Pultizer prize from her, that'll teach her to shet da hellie up....LOL

it was also said in the report that Obama "decries such characterizations which have no place in this campaign."

I wonder if sometime soon if he will denounce and (at Hillary's request) reject her."

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

When Bill and Hillary graduated from Yale, there was a system where everyone from their class who had taken out loans put them in a common pool, and paid back based on their income. As Hillary says in her book, it was great for them because they were public servants/working for the people right out of school (and yes, law professor at a state school is a public servant to me), but the people who went to big firms and stayed basically subsidized their law educations.

Also, we can't forget that the Clintons' Yale educations were possibly 10-25% of the cost of the Obamas' Harvard ones.

Whether or not the candidate knows the pain of student loans isn't that important to me...people of all socioeconomic backgrounds take them out, and some people pay them off right away, and others stretch out the payments to subsidize their lifestyles. One of our close family friends is a doctor, and 30 years out of med school, she buys a new car and boat every year, but guess what? She's still rocking out the loans (and makes smaller payments than most non-doctors I know).

this is where I was going with the whole student loan thing... though I admit I didn't say it as eloquently as Munchkin did.

I'd also add that going to college is a privilage, and not a right. If you want to go to college, grad, or medical, or law school, there is a price for it. If you don't have the money to pay in cash up front, you find another way if you want to go (i.e. take out loans) or work through college. If you take out loans, you start paying them back after you graduate.

There are even some programs (Teach for America for example) that will help you pay them if you teach or otherwise help out in certain ways.

What more do we really want?

The cost to go to college will always be rising. The demand is also rising. It's called economics.

I just don't like the fact that Obama is trying to use his "I just paid off my student loans, so I know what's it's like and I'm just like you so you should vote for me!!" to try to appeal to everyone.

[jon1856]

Obama adviser just resigned due to this:
Obama adviser says Clinton ‘a monster’

Apolgizes after telling newspaper rival candidate is stooping to low tactics

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23519392/

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

When Bill and Hillary graduated from Yale, there was a system where everyone from their class who had taken out loans put them in a common pool, and paid back based on their income. As Hillary says in her book, it was great for them because they were public servants/working for the people right out of school (and yes, law professor at a state school is a public servant to me), but the people who went to big firms and stayed basically subsidized their law educations.

Also, we can't forget that the Clintons' Yale educations were possibly 10-25% of the cost of the Obamas' Harvard ones.

Whether or not the candidate knows the pain of student loans isn't that important to me...people of all socioeconomic backgrounds take them out, and some people pay them off right away, and others stretch out the payments to subsidize their lifestyles. One of our close family friends is a doctor, and 30 years out of med school, she buys a new car and boat every year, but guess what? She's still rocking out the loans (and makes smaller payments than most non-doctors I know).

I did not know that - although since I already voted and I'm going to vote for either of them over McCain, it's sort of a moot point now.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

this is where I was going with the whole student loan thing... though I admit I didn't say it as eloquently as Munchkin did.

I'd also add that going to college is a privilage, and not a right. If you want to go to college, grad, or medical, or law school, there is a price for it. If you don't have the money to pay in cash up front, you find another way if you want to go (i.e. take out loans) or work through college. If you take out loans, you start paying them back after you graduate.

There are even some programs (Teach for America for example) that will help you pay them if you teach or otherwise help out in certain ways.

What more do we really want?

The cost to go to college will always be rising. The demand is also rising. It's called economics.

I just don't like the fact that Obama is trying to use his "I just paid off my student loans, so I know what's it's like and I'm just like you so you should vote for me!!" to try to appeal to everyone.

I don't think he his, I've not seen him mention it and I've seen Michelle mention it once, maybe. And that might have been in 2004, not this campaign cycle. (Not that I've seen every speech but it's not discussed) It remains public knowledge, and it's something I added.

Hillary has the opportunity to make her point about financials whenever she chooses to do so.

Btw, who saw the report about Obama's campaign finances: 90% of his donations were from people who gave less than $100. Wow. So cool.

[nittanyalum]

Ron Paul is finally planning to take a powder from the presidential race, though he promises his "revolution" will go on... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_vVaZxTno

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Ron Paul is finally planning to take a powder from the presidential race, though he promises his "revolution" will go on... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_vVaZxTno

^^^REFUTED

Grounds: Speculation; no basis in fact.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

^^^REFUTED

Grounds: Speculation; no basis in fact.

EXCELLENT rebuttal. You're refuting with what information, exactly? The man said in his video that "victory is not available" and "the campaign is winding down." But you feel free to keep the charge going forward, Don Quixote.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

^^^REFUTED

Grounds: Speculation; no basis in fact.

Spokesman: Ron Paul will end presidential run

CNN) -- A spokesman for Ron Paul's presidential campaign said Friday that the Texas congressman is ending his run for the White House.
"We are acknowledging that Ron will not be the nominee and that we are winding down the campaign," said Jesse Benton, the Paul campaign's communication manager.
Paul hinted the end was near in a video to supporters posted on YouTube on Thursday....
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/...aul/index.html

[nittanyalum]

Thank you, Jon!

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Spokesman: Ron Paul will end presidential run

CNN) -- A spokesman for Ron Paul's presidential campaign said Friday that the Texas congressman is ending his run for the White House.
"We are acknowledging that Ron will not be the nominee and that we are winding down the campaign," said Jesse Benton, the Paul campaign's communication manager.
Paul hinted the end was near in a video to supporters posted on YouTube on Thursday....
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/...aul/index.html

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...&postcount=254

'Nuff said.