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03-02-2008, 03:08 PM
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Not that I don't believe you, but as far as the global warming argument goes, all I have to do is look at a list of people who think it's real for me to know it's not.
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Yeah... crazy science and environmental people, bunch of no-nothings when it comes to the science and the environment - all hail are glorious politicians!
I could of course say the opposite since interestingly many of those who don't believe in Global Warming/Climate Change believe in Creationism or Intelligent Design - not exactly the hallmarks of rational thought when it comes to science (or reality really).
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03-02-2008, 03:32 PM
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Yeah... crazy science and environmental people, bunch of no-nothings when it comes to the science and the environment - all hail are glorious politicians!
I could of course say the opposite since interestingly many of those who don't believe in Global Warming/Climate Change believe in Creationism or Intelligent Design - not exactly the hallmarks of rational thought when it comes to science (or reality really).
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I dunno, the idea that extreme complexity comes from nothing isn't a hallmark of "rationality" either.
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03-02-2008, 03:41 PM
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I think global warming from greenhouse gases and other human behavior is a real possibility or a likely reality.
But I think many of the current events pointed to as evidence of global warming are more likely to be the product of long term climate cycles than they are directly attributable to the human policies and behaviors that are frequently pointed to.
I think we'd be better off doing everything we can to reduce our dependence on fossil fuels, partially because of how they may contribute to global warming, but even more because of the effects in making us less dependent on other countries for energy.
I don't think that the US should generally agree to international protocols that put US business and industry at a relative disadvantage.
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03-02-2008, 10:08 PM
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I really feel like academics, philosophers, and intellectuals, such as yourself, use "science" as an excuse to hide behind when there are no answers readily available.
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I'd rather rely on science than political theory when it comes to understanding our impact on God's creation.
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After all the earth has been through, you really believe that in the short time humans have been here- and in the even shorter amount of time that we've been industrialized- that we're responsible for changing the planet's climate? Give me a break.
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Yes I believe we are, without a shadow of a doubt - simply because animals and nature aren't in the habit of producing complex artificial compounds and gases, compounds and gases that can be directly linked to environmental and climatic shifts and disasters.
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03-02-2008, 10:22 PM
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compounds and gases that can be directly linked to environmental and climatic shifts and disasters.
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Can you provide some links that show this direct link to environment, climatic shifts, and disasters?
I'm not a global warming denier, but I haven't yet been convinced that we've shown these links directly, rather than established the possibility of links and the likelihood of acceleration.
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