two groups with the same name

SigmaSoror1997 · #1 03-01-2008, 07:16 PM

Try belonging to a female fraternity! Most people think I am ignorant when I say I belong to a fraternity. I am soror of Sigma Alpha Iota, Theta Pi Chapter, Newport News Virginia. We were founded in 1911 - a bonafide female fraternity. No homo jokes.

AnchorAlumna · #2 03-01-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SigmaSoror1997

Try belonging to a female fraternity! Most people think I am ignorant when I say I belong to a fraternity. I am soror of Sigma Alpha Iota, Theta Pi Chapter, Newport News Virginia. We were founded in 1911 - a bonafide female fraternity. No homo jokes.

Many of us do.

#3 03-06-2008, 05:59 PM

Yep, a lot of the sororities were founded as female fraternities.

PhiMu_Gator · #4 05-14-2008, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SigmaSoror1997

Try belonging to a female fraternity! Most people think I am ignorant when I say I belong to a fraternity. I am soror of Sigma Alpha Iota, Theta Pi Chapter, Newport News Virginia. We were founded in 1911 - a bonafide female fraternity. No homo jokes.

oh goodness! I know!!! I'm part of Phi Mu FRATERNITY since it was founded before Panhellenic or the word sorority was even founded! ADPi was also founded before all of this but their nationals changed them to a "sorority" I believe but my nationals wanted to keep the Phi Mu Fraternity tradition. it's insanity I'm also part of the AKPsi business frat so I'm a sister & brother in 2 frats.

2 of my friends just got initiated into SAI! they love it and both are in a npc too!

VandalSquirrel · #5 05-14-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiMu_Gator

oh goodness! I know!!! I'm part of Phi Mu FRATERNITY since it was founded before Panhellenic or the word sorority was even founded! ADPi was also founded before all of this but their nationals changed them to a "sorority" I believe but my nationals wanted to keep the Phi Mu Fraternity tradition. it's insanity I'm also part of the AKPsi business frat so I'm a sister & brother in 2 frats.

2 of my friends just got initiated into SAI! they love it and both are in a npc too!

I thought Phi Mu didn't change from Philomathean Society until 1904, which was after the NPC was founded in 1902. The Adelphean Society didn't even become Alpha Delta Pi until 1905 (after being Alpha Delta Phi), and this is all after Gamma Phi Beta founded in 1874, and "sorority" came into use. I'm not following your logic.

BabyPiNK_FL · #6 05-14-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I thought Phi Mu didn't change from Philomathean Society until 1904, which was after the NPC was founded in 1902. The Adelphean Society didn't even become Alpha Delta Pi until 1905 (after being Alpha Delta Phi), and this is all after Gamma Phi Beta founded in 1874, and "sorority" came into use. I'm not following your logic.

Yes, Phi Mu remained as the Philomathean Society for some time before changing their name.

#7 05-14-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I thought Phi Mu didn't change from Philomathean Society until 1904, which was after the NPC was founded in 1902. The Adelphean Society didn't even become Alpha Delta Pi until 1905 (after being Alpha Delta Phi), and this is all after Gamma Phi Beta founded in 1874, and "sorority" came into use. I'm not following your logic.

There is no logic there, sister.

PhiMu_Gator · #8 05-16-2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I thought Phi Mu didn't change from Philomathean Society until 1904, which was after the NPC was founded in 1902. The Adelphean Society didn't even become Alpha Delta Pi until 1905 (after being Alpha Delta Phi), and this is all after Gamma Phi Beta founded in 1874, and "sorority" came into use. I'm not following your logic.

sorry for not explaining. I believe our nationals chose to keep "fraternity" because the founding date of phi mu was earlier than the word sorority was created. so, they kept with the real founding date and not the name change. =)

MysticCat · #9 05-16-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiMu_Gator

sorry for not explaining. I believe our nationals chose to keep "fraternity" because the founding date of phi mu was earlier than the word sorority was created. so, they kept with the real founding date and not the name change. =)

I see what you're saying, but I think the missing logic comes from saying that "nationals chose to keep 'fraternity.'" Before the name change, wasn't it the Philomathean Society? That being the case, wouldn't it be that, given its founding date, Phi Mu chose to call itself a fraternity rather than to "keep" fraternity?

PhiMu_Gator · #10 05-16-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat

I see what you're saying, but I think the missing logic comes from saying that "nationals chose to keep 'fraternity.'" Before the name change, wasn't it the Philomathean Society? That being the case, wouldn't it be that, given its founding date, Phi Mu chose to call itself a fraternity rather than to "keep" fraternity?

I guess nationals felt that since when you switch over to greek letters you're either a fraternity or sorority, they "kept" fraternity because if it would've been founded with greek letters, it'd be a fraternity. we're called women's fraternity, which is pretty funny to me, but that's how they want to keep it. and I mean "kept" also because I believe older orgs have changed from fraternity to sorority, not "keeping" fraternity, at least what I've heard.

PhiGam · #11 05-16-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiMu_Gator

sorry for not explaining. I believe our nationals chose to keep "fraternity" because the founding date of phi mu was earlier than the word sorority was created. so, they kept with the real founding date and not the name change. =)

The only "sorority" is Gamma Phi Beta, correct?

LucyKKG · #12 05-16-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam

The only "sorority" is Gamma Phi Beta, correct?

Nope. I know ADPi switched their name. There are a few more as well.

MysticCat · #13 05-16-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam

The only "sorority" is Gamma Phi Beta, correct?

The list of NPC sororities and fraternities, as provided in the thread "Are you are fraternity, or a sorority?"

Per the list, the NPC has 15 fraternities and 11 sororities.

LucyKKG · #14 05-16-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat

The list of NPC sororities and fraternities, as provided in the thread "Are you are fraternity, or a sorority?"

Per the list, the NPC has 15 fraternities and 11 sororities.

Dang! Thanks. I knew that was on here somewhere, but class took precedence over GC searches. (I know, I know)

SoCalGirl · #15 05-16-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat

The list of NPC sororities and fraternities, as provided in the thread "Are you are fraternity, or a sorority?"

Per the list, the NPC has 15 fraternities and 11 sororities.

That post says SK was founded as a fraternity. Which I've never seen any evidence of before. I believe it was simply Sigma Kappa at first. Though, I've never seen anything that said when sorority was officially added either.

It appears my point was previously discussed.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...6&postcount=61