Less popular sororities

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

Does EW attend class or don't the Kappa Sigs and U of A care about going to class?

I'm not at the University of Arkansas, I'm still enrolled but have opportunities elsewhere at the moment.

I have not been offensive whatsoever in this thread yet people continue to act angrily. I'm not sure if it's some sort of inferiority complex or whatnot, but act civily, thanks.

Soooo...the fraternity shunned the sorority because...they pledged a black woman who is from a wealthy background. Okay...so that's a race effect that can't be disguised. You said it is tradition. Now what?

They shunned the sorority before and she wasn't wealthy to begin with. Remember what I said earlier? She had a sketchy background before hand. Please read instead making ridiculous attacks, thanks.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by skylark

To everyone else: has EW said that he is a current college student? Because I am finding it almost unbelievable that a 18-22 year old in this country could not know who Beyonce is. I'm guessing you would have to never watch any TV, including the news, or any magazines, or talk to anyone who is at all clued in to the media.

IIRC, EW transferred to or from Arkansas, and he was not an active member of the Kappa Sigma chapter there.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I have not been offensive whatsoever in this thread yet people continue to act angrily. I'm not sure if it's some sort of inferiority complex or whatnot, but act civily, thanks.

You know good and well that you were offensive when you typed that post that began with "stupid."

Despite what you may think, your attempts at acting "high society" are lost on GCers. Don't get snippy with people and then act like you're too good to get your ass handed to you.

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

They shunned the sorority before and she wasn't wealthy to begin with. Remember what I said earlier? She had a sketchy background before hand. Please read instead making ridiculous attacks, thanks.

I'm not making ridiculous attacks. You gave a ridiculous account. She wasn't wealthy to begin with? Where does it begin?

They shunned the sorority before but you told us about the black woman because........

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by 33girl

ok, I'm asking this, SERIOUSLY.

If Beyonce Knowles came through rush at your school, and an NPC sorority pledged her, would they be shunned socially?

I know this wasn't directly toward me, but I will answer. Hell no!

This includes any "Traditional", "Top Tier", "Old Row", "Good Ole Boy", "SEC", "Southern", "Conservative", "My Daddy has more money than your Daddy" chapter. Cause any good fraternity man knows you have to find favor with the sorority sisters if you want to get to the girl.



Mr. Walk: For your education, this ^^^ is Miss Knowles.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by oldu

I just realized that EW is from ARKANSAS...a state at or near the bottom of the food chain in nearly every statistic. I guess a guy who wears a pig face and goes around yelling "soo-pig" would end up with an inferiority complex and need any bias he can find to feel superior to someone. whether it race or otherwise. Pathetic.

Careful there. Some of us SEC (Southern) folk don't cotton to such talk.

[skylark]

Am I the only one considering whether EW might be a super-advanced-persistent troll. I know he's been around since 2006, but even his first post seems to bait trouble:

Well, I don't think it's necessary to shut oneself in your room, but we certainly spend no time with them. Our only brothers that we can stand are at Ole Miss, LSU, Auburn and Georgia and other southern schools. The majority of the brothers I have met outside of the SEC and Texas-Big 12 have been worthless. Honestly, I've never seen so many irreverent people then when I go to convention. Other fraternities on campus have lamented the same feelings when they go to convention.

I just keep having the hardest time believing someone could be so ignorant, out-of-touch and just stupid. And who hasn't heard of beyonce? It just is starting to gnaw at me.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by TSteven

I know this wasn't directly toward me, but I will answer. Hell no!

This includes any "Traditional", "Top Tier", "Old Row", "Good Ole Boy", "SEC", "Southern", "Conservative", "My Daddy has more money than your Daddy" chapter. Cause any good fraternity man knows you have to find favor with the sorority sisters if you want to get to the girl.



Mr. Walk: For your education, this ^^^ is Miss Knowles.

Yeah because she's not too black to offend the mainstream but black enough so they can say "we aren't bigots...we love that sorority with that black member."

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I'm not making ridiculous attacks. You gave a ridiculous account. She wasn't wealthy to begin with? Where does it begin?

They shunned the sorority before but you told us about the black woman because........

Is your reading comprehension low?

Instead of actually replying to blather...I will just quote what I have said previously so you will perhaps read it this time...this thread has long bored me after it delved into racial politics that were not to be mentioned until a certain person decided to attempt to attack the seriousness of Arkansas rush.

As I replied to YOU (I mean my god, is it really that hard):

I'm not in a sorority, obviously. I wasn't at the University at the time. She was not of a good background, which was part of the reason the sorority argued over her for so long.

Not of a good background means she was not well-off, obviously. It has nothing to do with her race.

Then I said:

It made poor rush decisions previous as they were always known for being not as good...but they had the numbers to maintain. After this decision, which obviously affected the fraternities...and the fraternities responded, it went down hill from there.

So, as I said, and as you have failed to read, they were okay and lasted during the shunning of the fraternities because they took whoever, because recruitment numbers were so high at the University. However, the lack of tradition resulted in this recruit sending them over the top. And it went down hill from there.

Please read instead of instantly responding.

If you have more questions, PM me but it's sort of difficult to take ad hominem attacks when I have said nothing racist or otherwise angry. I have been nothing but respectful of the situation which the sorority is in.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Is your reading comprehension low?

You're an idiot with horrible communication skills.

I asked you if the sorority that pledged the minority woman from the wealthy background got shunned. You said "yes." The end.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I do recall one minority being in a top tier sorority, as I think about it. She went to one of the top high schools in the state and is very, very wealthy.

DSTChaos was asking if THIS sorority was shunned, not the ones who had the bad taste to pledge the poor black girl.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by 33girl

DSTChaos was asking if THIS sorority was shunned, not the ones who had the bad taste to pledge the poor black girl.

Yeah. It's hard to keep EW's stories straight.

EW was the one who brought up race. He didn't just say "a poor woman" as if the class background was the central issue and not race. He's full of it.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Yeah because she's not too black to offend the mainstream but black enough so they can say "we aren't bigots...we love that sorority with that black member."

Here again, this is true.

However, I bet dollars to donuts that any chapter that pledges a women with such stunning looks would be hard pressed to be shunned by the fraternities. Regardless of her pigment.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by TSteven

However, I bet dollars to donuts that any chapter that pledges a women with such stunning looks would be hard pressed to be shunned by the fraternities. Regardless of her pigment.

The less Hollywood-ized version of her looks a lot different but, using the naturally beautiful women I know in real life, I see your point.

[UGAalum94]

I don't know if the straight up racism that EW is espousing is actually that common. Even the most traditional, conservative, old south chapter has members (and I actually think a majority of members) who would be disgusted by the assertion that because a group includes a minority member that the group isn't to be associated with socially.

But there are also individual members who may/do hold racist views, and because the non-racist members don't push their position and insist on showing good leadership, the racists are more influential than they ought to be.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I don't know if the straight up racism that EW is espousing is actually that common. Even the most traditional, conservative, old south chapter has members (and I actually think a majority of members) who would be disgusted by the assertion that because a group includes a minority member that the group isn't to be associated with socially.

But there are also individual members who may/do hold racist views, and because the non-racist members don't push their position and insist on showing good leadership, the racists are more influential than they ought to be.

It isn't. The covert form is a lot more common.

Plus, EW is probably unlikely to say these things in real life around people who he knows doesn't hold these views. He knows social cues just like almost everyone else does, which is why all -isms have mostly transformed from the "Archie Bunker types" to something less obvious.


I agree 100% with your post.