Pledge Pin Requirements

[33girl]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

What sucks is that we have to tell our girls that they are NOT ALLOWED to wear their pins...because it's hazing. It is always a disappointment to the girls who want to wear them to find out they can't.

Per your school? If they choose to wear them, it isn't hazing.

[fantASTic]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Per your school? If they choose to wear them, it isn't hazing.

Yes and no. Like many things, it can be turned into a hazing tool. So, we simply can't allow it in case someone gets the 'wrong idea'.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

Yes and no. Like many things, it can be turned into a hazing tool. So, we simply can't allow it in case someone gets the 'wrong idea'.

I'm sorry, but that's about the lamest thing I've heard in a long time. Why even have the pins if they're not allowed to wear them.

I could make an argument that forbidding NMs from wearing the pins is hazing. It would be a pretty stupid argument, but not nearly as stupid as the idea that you can't let them wear the pins because someone might think there was hazing going on.

Waiter, can we please get a reality check over here?

[fantASTic]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I'm sorry, but that's about the lamest thing I've heard in a long time. Why even have the pins if they're not allowed to wear them.

I could make an argument that forbidding NMs from wearing the pins is hazing. It would be a pretty stupid argument, but not nearly as stupid as the idea that you can't let them wear the pins because someone might think there was hazing going on.

Waiter, can we please get a reality check over here?

Do you think I make the rules? Because I don't. Why can't we do scavenger hunts? Because it COULD BE a hazing tool. Why can't we do a lot of things? Because it could be a hazing tool. That's just how it is nowadays...so now they are only allowed to wear them in pin attire.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

Do you think I make the rules? Because I don't. Why can't we do scavenger hunts? Because it COULD BE a hazing tool. Why can't we do a lot of things? Because it could be a hazing tool. That's just how it is nowadays...so now they are only allowed to wear them in pin attire.

No, I don't think you make the rules, and I didn't say you were stupid.

And I note that now you've said they are allowed to wear them sometimes; your earlier post made it sound like they were not allowed to wear them at all.

But as a rule, it is a very, very stupid rule to prohibit wearing the pin when the NM wants to (unless there are attire/drinking issues or whatever).

And that's how it is some places nowadays. As this thread shows, not everyone takes the same view of what is hazing that some groups and schools do. Many groups still expect that a pledge pin (or whatever it may be called) will be worn most of the time during the pledge period.

[fantASTic]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

No, I don't think you make the rules, and I didn't say you were stupid.

And I note that now you've said they are allowed to wear them sometimes; your earlier post made it sound like they were not allowed to wear them at all.

But as a rule, it is a very, very stupid rule to prohibit wearing the pin when the NM wants to (unless there are attire/drinking issues or whatever).

And that's how it is some places nowadays. As this thread shows, not everyone takes the same view of what is hazing that some groups and schools do. Many groups still expect that a pledge pin (or whatever it may be called) will be worn most of the time during the pledge period.

Ah, I see now why you were confused. What I was referring to is new members who want to wear them all the time as a sign of pride. They get embarrassed and upset when we tell them that they MAY NOT wear it when not in pin attire, no matter how nicely we say it. Personally, I don't see what's wrong with WANTING to show pride in your organization, but I know that they do it because of what you stated; that some groups make them wear it all the time. And here, that's definitely considered hazing. (Once again, though, that's not my decision, so let's not get into the hazing debate.)

[Thetagirl218]

New Members at my chapter could only wear their pin with pin attire. This was mostly only during chapter meetings, and other special occasions. If they wore the pin with something that as not pin attire, ie jeans or a strapless shirt, they were supposed to get fined, but I don't think this was ever strictly enforced.