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02-25-2008, 11:11 AM
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1.) What you are thinking of is that this is a violation of freedom of speech. This is not a violation of privacy.
2.) The last time I checked unless its an actual bottle advertising the beverage for all they know it could be apple juice in that glass and its up to them to prove that its alcohol.
I love being a sticklar for loop holes. hahaha That's probably why my mom always wanted me to join the debate team or become a lawyer.
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02-25-2008, 11:15 AM
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The last time I checked unless its an actual bottle advertising the beverage for all they know it could be apple juice in that glass and its up to them to prove that its alcohol.
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Generally, it is not a good idea to have pictures with any kind of glass/beverage up, unless it's something blatantly obvious like a milkshake. I have seen pictures of people drinking soda from red Solo cups, and despite the fact that I know what's in those cups, Coke isn't the first thing that comes to mind when I see them. And I'm sure that all 22 year olds drink apple juice when they go out.
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02-25-2008, 11:24 AM
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obvious like a milkshake
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Kahlua mudslide?
Rule of thumb for the young 'uns, treat all your online stuff like it's your resume because more and more, it's looked at that way. So besides the whole "what would your Mom/Grandma think", imagine every employer you ever want to work with (or graduate school you want to attend) looking at your profile.
I still don't get why people put all their personal business out there anyway, but if you feel the need to share so much, at least make good decisions. Cover up to at least a level of decency, avoid any drinking photos that are in any way questionable regardless of your age, and no one needs to see you tongue kissing anyone.
I don't go on those sites but people check them for me and I'm floored by the stories of what they find online.
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02-25-2008, 02:41 PM
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It's also possible to put your pictures and profile private, so that only you, or only the people on your friends list can see photos and information you put up on your page.
But as everyone has already said, it's just a photo, there's no need to get too worked up over it. I mean honestly, if it's that great of a photo just crop the beverage out of it or place smiley face icon over top of it or something.
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02-25-2008, 03:06 PM
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Sometimes when you're part of a group, you have to do some things for the betterment of the group. This isn't something I think is worth making a big deal about.
Just make your photos and/or profile private or friends-only. Problem solved.
Or if you love the pic so much just crop the beer out.
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02-26-2008, 04:09 PM
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Rule of thumb for the young 'uns, treat all your online stuff like it's your resume because more and more, it's looked at that way.
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Being in the Human Resources field, I can definitely vouch for this. I am an employer and I DO check facebook and myspace accounts on all of our applicants. It is a way that we can get some insight into your personality and see who will best fit the company culture. While we do not discriminate solely on the fact that we didn't like something on your facebook/myspace page, we are allowed to take it into consideration when choosing who to hire.
Companies like to protray a certain public image just like most Fraternities and Sororities do.
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03-22-2008, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nittanyalum
Kahlua mudslide?
Rule of thumb for the young 'uns, treat all your online stuff like it's your resume because more and more, it's looked at that way. So besides the whole "what would your Mom/Grandma think", imagine every employer you ever want to work with (or graduate school you want to attend) looking at your profile.
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I don't go on those sites but people check them for me and I'm floored by the stories of what they find online.
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Another reminder, sadly, because more concerns about pics posted on Facebook have surfaced, this time at the U. of North Dakota:
http://www.grandforksherald.com/arti...3§ion=News
Excerpts from much longer article:
A group of American Indian students plans to file a discrimination complaint with UND’s affirmative action office Monday about a Gamma Phi Beta sorority party in November during which students dressed up in American Indian costumes and slathered their faces and bodies with red makeup. . . .
. . . Photos from the party were posted on the Facebook site of . . . the sorority’s current president, including one as her profile photo, visible to all Facebook users. . . .
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03-23-2008, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by exlurker
Another reminder, sadly, because more concerns about pics posted on Facebook have surfaced, this time at the U. of North Dakota:
http://www.grandforksherald.com/arti...3§ion=News
Excerpts from much longer article:
A group of American Indian students plans to file a discrimination complaint with UND’s affirmative action office Monday about a Gamma Phi Beta sorority party in November during which students dressed up in American Indian costumes and slathered their faces and bodies with red makeup. . . .
. . . Photos from the party were posted on the Facebook site of . . . the sorority’s current president, including one as her profile photo, visible to all Facebook users. . . .
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I guess the red body paint was a bad idea...I've been to Indian Parties though. One of our fraternities has one every year. I don't know that that's so offensive unless there is some kind of negative stigma attached to it.
They should've just had cute indian princess costumes and left off the body paint.
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03-23-2008, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl
I guess the red body paint was a bad idea...I've been to Indian Parties though. One of our fraternities has one every year. I don't know that that's so offensive unless there is some kind of negative stigma attached to it.
They should've just had cute indian princess costumes and left off the body paint.
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I don't know. I think it could still be seen as kinda offensive, because it still looks like dressing up like Indians without understanding the culture behind it. It could possibly be seen as perpetuating the stereotype that all Indians wear deerskin clothing, live in teepees, wear feather headdresses, etc. when in actuality, there are many different Native American groups with differing cultural dress, differing traditional types of homes, differing religious/spiritual beliefs, different cultural practices, etc. And it could possibly be seen as cultural misappropriation of a historically oppressed people. I'm not saying that that's what fraternity and sorority members are trying to do when they have Indian parties. But if someone wanted to get offended, they still could.
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03-23-2008, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SOPi_Jawbreaker
I don't know. I think it could still be seen as kinda offensive, because it still looks like dressing up like Indians without understanding the culture behind it. It could possibly be seen as perpetuating the stereotype that all Indians wear deerskin clothing, live in teepees, wear feather headdresses, etc. when in actuality, there are many different Native American groups with differing cultural dress, differing traditional types of homes, differing religious/spiritual beliefs, different cultural practices, etc. And it could possibly be seen as cultural misappropriation of a historically oppressed people. I'm not saying that that's what fraternity and sorority members are trying to do when they have Indian parties. But if someone wanted to get offended, they still could.
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I just think that's a little over the top. People dress up bare foot, pregnant, and in overalls for "White Trash" parties all the time...it never really bothered me enough to report them for it.
I guess the red paint thing was the last straw. That's pretty tacky.
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03-25-2008, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SOPi_Jawbreaker
I don't know. I think it could still be seen as kinda offensive, because it still looks like dressing up like Indians without understanding the culture behind it. It could possibly be seen as perpetuating the stereotype that all Indians wear deerskin clothing, live in teepees, wear feather headdresses, etc. when in actuality, there are many different Native American groups with differing cultural dress, differing traditional types of homes, differing religious/spiritual beliefs, different cultural practices, etc. And it could possibly be seen as cultural misappropriation of a historically oppressed people. I'm not saying that that's what fraternity and sorority members are trying to do when they have Indian parties. But if someone wanted to get offended, they still could.
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A CBS affiliate has some updated information about the U. of North Dakota situation posted on its site:
http://www.kxmb.com/News/222272.asp
Excerpts from longer article:
A University of North Dakota sorority has been put on probation in the wake of a party in which some people dressed up as American Indians.
The Gamma Phi Beta sorority was put on probation by both the sorority's central office . . .and by the UND dean of student's office.
That office will investigate a discrimination complaint filed against the sorority by American Indian students. . . .
Edited to add this link / address for the offical national Gamma Phi Beta press release regarding the UND situation:
http://www.gammaphibeta.org/news/det...CATEGORY_ID=11
Last edited by exlurker; 03-25-2008 at 04:27 PM.
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